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Old 02-01-2018, 08:03 AM
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Not maxing Wendigo Totem?

Wendigo Totem is used only when I need to stand still which is very rare. Even in boss fights I have doubts regarding putting more points into on a ranged build
So you don't max Wendigo totem, but you do max Inq seal - surely that needs you to stand still too for the benefits...?

(although I suppose Wendigo totem's effectiveness is further limited by the fact that it needs to be close to both enemies and yourself).
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:18 AM
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I really wanted to try a primal strike build for once, but i got so many lighnting builds already that I got sick of it! unless if green lightning is used! :P

I'd rather finish my 2 hand tactician- inspired by JoV using a sinister ugdenboltthrower, converting all physical to pierce to cadence. Hope it turns out well!
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:20 AM
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Have you considered using Myth Raka'Jax + 2 Glyphs ?

Raka'jax = 18-22% Crit on it + 2 to Shaman Skills
2 Glyphs = 2-6% Crit in them (from gaius) + more lightning dmg + 4 to Stormcaller's Pact

Max Stormcaller's Pact = 70% Crit + 18-22% from Raka'Jax

Ugdenbog Sparkthrower only gives 40% crit, which is lower than rakajax +2glyphs.

The best thing on the rifle is that u can get attack speed which is very good for build.

With this i have 150k sheet dmg and reach up to 175% crit : https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4woqrZ
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:37 AM
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Nice build

as far as Raka vs MI.

I had this conversation with jajaja long ago, he wanted to do this build.

Raka is 100% hands down for non transmuted PS for Electrical DOT. Problem is getting duration.

Mi wins for PS spam with decent affix any day

Edit:also what Boo said below about rings...what's %crit dmg if you don't have the OA to support it?

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Old 02-01-2018, 10:37 AM
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Have you considered using Myth Raka'Jax + 2 Glyphs ?

Raka'jax = 18-22% Crit on it + 2 to Shaman Skills
2 Glyphs = 2-6% Crit in them (from gaius) + more lightning dmg + 4 to Stormcaller's Pact

Max Stormcaller's Pact = 70% Crit + 18-22% from Raka'Jax

Ugdenbog Sparkthrower only gives 40% crit, which is lower than rakajax +2glyphs.

The best thing on the rifle is that u can get attack speed which is very good for build.

With this i have 150k sheet dmg and reach up to 175% crit : https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4woqrZ
175% crit damage means nothing if you don't have the OA to support it which your setup kinda lacks, you'd be completely dependant on having Deadly Aim up 100% of the time. Besides that the good thing about the Sparkthrower is that you can roll attack speed on it. There's a difference of 0.6 attacks per second between your setup and Cthon's setup which is quite a significant difference.

While Glyphs are nice they feel rather wasted without the OA to support the crit increase and the attack speed to support the flat damage increase.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:42 AM
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that additional 8% crit damage from skyfallen makes it bis indeed!

I guess I should remove my hatred for primal strike!

another good build!
Additional crit damage
More OA
More physical to Lightning conversion


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I have a very similar build but with Hand of Ultos instead. Pretty solid.
Ah yes, the lack of AS is a big hit on that weapon
Btw, I am using Ultos devotion. I just didn't pick Tempest/SoTH and instead of those I went with Dying God


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I like how you made it. I tried PS vindicator (from my Savagery Vindicator) and it was weak and unfun. Main problem is moderately ok damage but weak surivivability, cuz no Feral Hunger and less attack speed. You just went and capitilzed on the build potential strength - its ability to stack Critical damage, and you stacked shit ton. So full blown cannon, killing mobs before they get to you I imagine, great for Campaign.

Also, nice sneaky gloves slot

If only a video of the carnage
Exactly, the lack of ADCtH based WPS is a big hit which is why crit route is the best route imo.

As for video, hmm...nope (sorry)

Lastly, for the gloves...hehe


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The Sparkthrowers are damn good nowadays, nice to see someone make a build around it.
I'd bind Elemental Storm or Arcane Bomb to Storm Box though—it's a proccing machine and you don't always want to have to drop a Wendigo Totem.

Also: inb4 PS needs buff.
Devotion binding is a flexible, I went with what suited my playstyle on this particular build.

Yup, PS too weak. Need buff /s


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Isn't Biting cold would be better then SBoF??
As Inquisitor seal.
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Remember how I said in Vitality Melee build that I dislike Ravenous Earth? Well Runes is the second skill I dislike which is why I never use them for debuffing. It just doesn't suit my playstyle at all

RE, AAR and Runes are the player skills I dislike in the game.

I never tried binding things to Seal. Is it really effective?


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u could use storm totem for arcane bomb
it has a higher range then wendigo

winddevil - elemental storm
ST is an extra button click just for a proc which is an effective DPS loss.
I won't recommend using that rifle, try to get a prefix with Physical> Lightning conversion


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So you got over your hatred towards the Hungering Void? Impressive! But I do hope you're just warming up.
Nope, still hate that stupid proc. How does it make sense that when Solael descends upon thee (Possession) there is not HP/Mana drain but when I (the benevolent one) descend upon someone they loose a crap ton of HP?

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Read the guide. I mentioned something about Raka'jax
Also your setup cannot equip the rifle you lack cunning
You have too much invested into spirit for no reason
I can stack more crit damage at the expense of OA and DA but that's not optimal


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So you don't max Wendigo totem, but you do max Inq seal - surely that needs you to stand still too for the benefits...?

(although I suppose Wendigo totem's effectiveness is further limited by the fact that it needs to be close to both enemies and yourself).
Summon limit is the thing you are forgetting. While Totem anchors me down to one spot. Seal does provide me some room for kiting. Not to mention Seal is a key source of Crit damage
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:45 AM
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Mi wins for PS spam with decent affix any day
Ah okay thanks for the info
I considered Raka might be good cause of %OA, plus skills and 22% crit damage


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Bingo

Btw I ran out of space in the previous post


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EDIT: Storm Spread doesn't work with Thunderous Strike
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:40 AM
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Storm Spread doesn't work with Thunderous Strike
Yep, missed that one, thnx ! Did this now : https://www.grimtools.com/calc/mN4woyrZ

Imo as ranged u dont really need max out stun res, u mostly kite.
And if u look in inv2, i have +3000% light and almost 20K weapon attack, and raka'jax and rings win a lot of skill points.

All im missing, cause the play is very nice and not that squishy, is attack speed, and maybe 4% more life steal from solael pants, or easier a seal of blades.

and why not light defender gloves ?
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Old 02-01-2018, 11:55 AM
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All im missing, cause the play is very nice and not that squishy
not that squishy with 11k hp and 2.1K DA ?
all those +skills are worthless if you dont even invest them in the right skills dude :/
you lacked bit cunning for weap and now you have 57 points in cunning ? wtf !
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