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Old 06-16-2017, 12:50 AM
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Umm you're joking right?

Elementalist has more RR, it has got Blast Shield, it has for Flashbang for Fumble/Impaired Aim And it has attack speed

I don't mean to dis-credit your build, it's nice to see people putting efforts trying to make Ultos Druids. But Elementalist should be superior than a Druid. Druid lacks behind Conjurers as well.


Oh and if it means anything Full Ultos Elementalist beat Ultimate Mogdrogen while facetanking before nerfs to the entire set
I wasn't joking, I just don't have as much experience playing different builds. Oh well, if Elementalist can melee Ultos build better than Druid it means Druids are in a bad place. I have beaten Elite Modrogen, took me 20 minutes.
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:58 AM
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I wasn't joking, I just don't have as much experience playing different builds. Oh well, if Elementalist can melee Ultos build better than Druid it means Druids are in a bad place. I have beaten Elite Modrogen, took me 20 minutes.
Good for you

Although when making builds don't use that asshole as a benchmark. There can exist builds that roflstomp content but still loose to him. Though if you come up with a way to beat him in a build then take pride in it

And yes Druids are in a bad place. My best Druid experience has been that of Bleed based Callidor's Tempest
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:13 AM
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Currently working on a Ultos gladiator druid and it is definitely (to my surprise) a reliable gladiator farmer.
Could it be electrocute DoT ?

I think it may viable from having many damage source without auto-attack.

I do have bad experience with ultos warder but have some hope for heavy electrocute in other class combination. Don't have time to test it yet and I personally don't like to play shaman
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Old 06-16-2017, 02:24 AM
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Could it be electrocute DoT ?

I think it may viable from having many damage source without auto-attack.

I do have bad experience with ultos warder but have some hope for heavy electrocute in other class combination. Don't have time to test it yet and I personally don't like to play shaman
Electrocute lacks duration bonus though, unless you are using storm reaver
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Old 06-16-2017, 08:55 AM
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Electrocute lacks duration bonus though, unless you are using storm reaver
Whatever it is I am puzzled why he picked Druid over Elementalist (although Arcanist happens to be one of my favorite classes)
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Old 06-16-2017, 09:00 AM
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Whatever it is I am puzzled why he picked Druid over Elementalist (although Arcanist happens to be one of my favorite classes)
Druid gives more OA and crit damage, it's not all bad, the number is pretty, but the attack speed sucks
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Druid gives more OA and crit damage, it's not all bad, the number is pretty, but the attack speed sucks
Agreed about OA but Elementalist has a bunch of other benefits (stated above by me )
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I'm not sure why, but Electrocute is very underwhelming. I tested a full-on Electrocute Elementalist build with Maelstrom, Stormreaver + Storm Tap, CD SJ w/ max Full Spread, Transmuted Grenado w/ maxed Shattering Blast, Stormcaller's Pact, and Oleron's Might for huge magnifier to Flat Electrocute. This plus RR from Widow/Thermite/E Storm and Tempest. I was only hitting 60-70k DoTs with all this stacked...I still have no idea why it's so low.

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I'm not sure why, but Electrocute is very underwhelming. I tested a full-on Electrocute Elementalist build with Maelstrom, Stormreaver + Storm Tap, CD SJ w/ max Full Spread, Transmuted Grenado w/ maxed Shattering Blast, Stormcaller's Pact, and Oleron's Might for huge magnifier to Flat Electrocute. This plus RR from Widow/Thermite/E Storm and Tempest. I was only hitting 60-70k DoTs with all this stacked...I still have no idea why it's so low.
Lack of flat electrocute damage is the reason, my electric elementalist have about 1000 less flat electrocute damage comparing to any frostburn/burn build I have. I'm trying out a druid version to see if it is better
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I'm not sure why, but Electrocute is very underwhelming. I tested a full-on Electrocute Elementalist build with Maelstrom, Stormreaver + Storm Tap, CD SJ w/ max Full Spread, Transmuted Grenado w/ maxed Shattering Blast, Stormcaller's Pact, and Oleron's Might for huge magnifier to Flat Electrocute. This plus RR from Widow/Thermite/E Storm and Tempest. I was only hitting 60-70k DoTs with all this stacked...I still have no idea why it's so low.
Did you test with Fabius/Mad Queen/Dummy? kill time? (just want to know overall dps)

I knew that only Electrocute isn't powerful compare with other DoT. But rapid lightning strike from the skills, totem etc. may make overall dps higher than we think too. And about full Ultos set skill may support DoT (that's why i guess to Drizz).

So only electrocute damage tick may not be enough to measure. I believe that there're more lightning damage came along with, but don't know how much.

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Whatever it is I am puzzled why he picked Druid over Elementalist (although Arcanist happens to be one of my favorite classes)
May be high crit and DoT bonus from IEE line and Maiven's Sphere line.

Conversion is very good for crucible. It make a char very flexible and can absorb damage too. Blast Shield is more appropriate in facetank, but Maiven's can do very well in flexibility.
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