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Old 10-17-2017, 05:32 AM
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The build offers four sources of Retaliation, which, when stack, can hit up to 400+k damage.
The highest I've seen is 403k on some Colossi in Malmouth Harbor. Very satisfying seeing his health suddenly shredded off, when usually people tend to kite these guys, and you are tanking them face to face.
Only managed 324K for my retaliation build. Overguard and Shield Wall increase block recovery to 99% and damage blocked to 10.5K. When I had full 93 points in Physique, had 2994 DA and never really higher then 75% chance to be hit. Too forever to actually kill anything with them missing so much lol.
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Old 10-17-2017, 06:53 PM
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I'm done with Kupacabra. I can't take this shit anymore.

The fight with him is absolutely retarded to the point of being comical. Now get this - I can stand in his pools of vomit with zero problems. There were four of them, surrounding me and constantly spitting their shit - I don't give a fuck. There's this other problem, however.

The problem is his retarded heal. One I can deal with, two are okay, fucking four? Nope, not as a Retaliator Melee, no sir. The heal is so stupid this is literally a scenario, where immovable object meets unstoppable force, i.e...

No one of us can damage each other, since both of us immediately outheal all the damage taken.



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Old 10-17-2017, 06:55 PM
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The build offers four sources of Retaliation, which, when stack, can hit up to 400+k damage.
The highest I've seen is 403k on some Colossi in Malmouth Harbor. Very satisfying seeing his health suddenly shredded off, when usually people tend to kite these guys, and you are tanking them face to face.
That's the best part about Retaliation builds. You can tank anything that other builds fear


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The problem is his retarded heal. One I can deal with, two are okay, fucking four? Nope, not as a Retaliator Melee, no sir. The heal is so stupid this is literally a scenario, where immovable object meets unstoppable force, i.e...
I'll test him with my Commando to spot a weakness. Didn't notice he even had a heal with my Witch hUnter

It's weird he's causing you problem I recall him doing plenty of melee damage to trigger retaliation
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:06 PM
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That's the best part about Retaliation builds. You can tank anything that other builds fear
Except for Rashalga, however. I still didn't figure out what the fuck is causing her to be on her period every 3-4 seconds in my default setup. After I was done with her shit and rearranged my character a bit, I got 4 kills in a row with no problems, though. Full tanking her too.

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It's weird he's causing you problem I recall him doing plenty of melee damage to trigger retaliation
The heal comes from those pools he spits out. They heal hard and fast, so instead of usual tanking you have to play a cat-mouse game with him. I managed to kill the big one, two middle ones, but last four constantly healing themselves is a bit too much. Spawning in a fucking mine didn't help either.

Yes, he hits hard, so reflect and retaliation can sometimes shredd half of his health in a single hit. The problem afterwards comes from him spitting the pools and immediately outhealing everything.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:12 PM
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Except for Rashalga, however. I still didn't figure out what the fuck is causing her to be on her period every 3-4 seconds in my default setup. After I was done with her shit and rearranged my character a bit, I got 4 kills in a row with no problems, though. Full tanking her too.
Probably some proc is being counted as a projectile. Don't worry about it, you'll figure it out


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Yes, he hits hard, so reflect and retaliation can sometimes shredd half of his health in a single hit. The problem afterwards comes from him spitting the pools and immediately outhealing everything.
So that's what they do.
Well I hope he does get nerfed since he is stronger than Grava atm
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The highest I've seen is 403k on some Colossi in Malmouth Harbor. Very satisfying seeing his health suddenly shredded off, when usually people tend to kite these guys, and you are tanking them face to face.
They don't just get murdered before you can walk up to their corpse?

Just kidding with you. :D Very nice build and writeup! I still don't know if I can ever bring myself to touch retaliation again but if I do it would be this build.
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Old 10-18-2017, 11:19 AM
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Avenger of Cairn clearing Gloomwald. Those Golems are nuts.

https://youtu.be/C1eDu7VxdZ8

Avenger of Cairn busting through Barrowholm Mine - Naxen Boss.

https://youtu.be/nXApypVc_zQ

As of today, this build killed Reaper of Souls! Another Nemesis has fallen to it's might of Retaliation!



Kupacabra finally destroyed! Holy shit, what an ass!

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Old 10-18-2017, 11:08 PM
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So now, my testing with this build is finally complete! It turned out to be a marvelous, SMASHING SUCCESS.
Not only this build reaps through Nemesises like hot knife through butter (most of them anyway), it also gives a lot of survivability to stand on the equal ground with the likes of Super Bosses.

When I fist started to make it, my initial goal was to complete the expansion without breaking a sweat, since I've seen a lot of complaints and concerns about the difficulty it provides to the players. And holy shit, it was actually true.
Take Ugdenbog with it's ridiculous poison plants or fucking mega tank Golems.
I'm not even talking about Malmouth itself - it's a gigantic clusterfuck with tight ass corridors and A LOT OF FREAKING Aetherials all over the damn place. Today I saw a pack of 5 heroes charging me through the portal near Outskirts. Then another three came out of nowhere. It's bonkers.

So in order to survive such harsh conditions, while maintaining acceptable clear speed was my ultimate goal. I think, it totally succeeded. As of now this build has killed the folowing:

Zantarin - Dead. Shotgunned himself into reflect.
Iron Maiden - Dead. Killed herself.
Fabius - Cut himself with his own blades. Dead.
Valdaran - The toughest of the bunch, needed to rearrange equipment a bit. Dead.
Kupacabra - Ridiculous Boss, who will soon receive a nerf. The most frustrating, annoying bullshit in entire expansion. Dead.
Reaper of Souls - Raped himself. Dead.
Alexsander - Blasted himself. Dead.
Ravager of Souls - First fight with him was a bit tough due to my default setup. After looking through Fluff's thread, I again rearranged my equipment and this time the battle was much more comfortable. Destroyed.
Mad Queen - Annoying bitch. I actually figured what was causing her to scream all the time with my default setup... then got 4 consecutive kills in a row, finally getting that sweet claw. Also, it's one of the few melee builds, that can tank her non stop.

I'm proud to call this build a huge testament to the power of Retaliation! The likes of which, in my opinion, are underestimated among most builds.

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Defeating Gabal'Thunn, the infamous Madman

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Slaying Lunal'Valgoth, the Overgrown Spider

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Crushing the Mountain on 2x speed (I was really bored)

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Trying to figure out why toad instead of harpy / empty throne, or even wolverine earlier. Care to share thoughts on this?
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:09 AM
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Trying to figure out why toad instead of harpy / empty throne, or even wolverine earlier. Care to share thoughts on this?
You will have enough DA from the upper constellations to not worry about your defence, and Toad also provides ADCtH, which can be fairly useful.
No Throne because we have WoR.
Toad also serves as a bridge point towards getting Behemoth... which is used in another build I'll provide later in full guide.
Harpy is virtually useless for this build. We are not going for damage increase.
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