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Old 07-11-2018, 03:43 PM
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I'm slowly getting sucked deeper and deeper into the DPS club.

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How is it a damage loss though? Attack speed + WPS?
Hell bane ammo bro.. adds over 2k lightning damage to base attacks. that seal is converting some of your physical to useless chaos.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2d5EadV added hell bane, second glyph, fixed psn resist with slyvarria essence.. even stronger now. give it a whirl

traded 40 oa, 70 da, 4% attack speed, and the wps for a possible 4k base lightning damage, 8% crit damage, 2 more points in inq seal, 300 electrocute base wep damage.

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Old 07-11-2018, 05:40 PM
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1) before I forget, x1x1x1x2 also mentioned that this build isn’t OP. Or wanted me to change the title at least. I guess i just don’t like vindicators.

2) I remember doing the math out for the seal of chaos and figured it was more DPS. Can someone smarter than me show me why I’m wrong?
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:47 PM
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1) before I forget, x1x1x1x2 also mentioned that this build isnít OP. Or wanted me to change the title at least. I guess i just donít like vindicators.

2) I remember doing the math out for the seal of chaos and figured it was more DPS. Can someone smarter than me show me why Iím wrong?
I think im doing the math correctly here.
since I cant remember if wps damage is added to the auto attack replacer or is it is a multiplier ie if it is wep damage x 2.05 (savagery) x 1.3 (void) or if its wep damage x 3.35 (savagery/void proc).. but you will get the idea.

Not going to factor crits or rr, but that definitely makes the difference larger.
lets assume my set up on different attacks:
Base attack no wps 15% - 24k wep x 2.05 = 49200
bursting 20% - 24k x 3.19 = 76560
chilling 20% - 24k x 2.83 = 67920
storm 20% - 24k x 2.38 = 57120 x 4 projectile
feral 25% - 24k x 3.8 = 91200
513360 total for 1 hit each (more lightning damage too which is effected by our -rr)

Your set up.. so sake of easy math im not going to figure out exact proc chances since you are 1% over max wps pool.
void 15% - 19.8k x 3.35 = 66330
bursting 20% - 19.8k x 3.19 = 63162
chilling 20% - 19.8k x 2.83 = 56034
storm 20% - 19.8k x 2.38 = 47124 x 4 projectile
feral 25% - 19.8k x 3.8 = 75240
449262 total for 1 hit of each.

Granted there is extra flat damage on void procs... but it definitely isnt 64k worth of damage. Basically gimping your other attacks for a marginal gain a gain on 15% of attacks. This difference is only multiplied by other stats such as crit damage and RR
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:02 PM
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Hmm, even factoring into account the %attack speed bonus of 4% and obtaining a final value of 467232 isn’t worth it. Aite. I’ll chang the OP tomorrow.

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Old 07-11-2018, 11:14 PM
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1) before I forget, x1x1x1x2 also mentioned that this build isnít OP. Or wanted me to change the title at least. I guess i just donít like vindicators.
I don't think the build is OP . But I mainly wanted to change the title to discourage a possible discussion of what's OP and what's not which can influence devs decision for nerfs. I'm strongly anti nerf atm.
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:52 AM
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Thanks for the title change Medea!
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:41 PM
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Edited the GT link to include hell's bane.
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Im curious was the difference noticeable?
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:44 PM
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Slight bit. Lower trash clearing, better nem killing.

I'm still very undecided. It's possible that seal of the void MIGHT be the better option for better crucible times because AoE is something this build struggles with.
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