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Judging by the picture of the Mastery I'm assuming the Necromancer and his minions are facing off against some of the new Aetherials we'll come across in the expansion. Aetherial Imps and what looks like a flesh hulk sized mutant with aether crystals on his back and at least 1 ranged cannon for an arm.
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I like it. Reminds me of the Spirit mastery from TQ.
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Not sure how a technomancer is somehow more original, or even fits the low-tech world of Grim Dawn.
Well, Steam Engineer actually fits the world of Grim Dawn, if you think about it.
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Now how will this make sense with characters that choose to side with Kymon's Chosen?
Necromancer --> Defiler(?) to purge the typical Necromancers with fire and brimstone?
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Well, Steam Engineer actually fits the world of Grim Dawn, if you think about it.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:33 PM
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This has me beyond hyped.

My previous time in Grim Dawn was spent pretending to be a Necromancer on my Occultist with Og'Napesh's grimoire. And I spent most of my time farming undead in Arkovia. I guess its just... my thing?


I'm probably going to delete my existing characters completely and start afresh with a Necromancer. Not sure about the second specialisation, perhaps Arcanist. I like the idea of starting over... my Occultist is literally from before the original release, back when only Act 1 was finished. I'll remake him in time.


I wonder whether melee builds are going to be fun to play with this mastery, because up to now I've always played casters in Grim Dawn. I just don't like the 2h animations, but maybe scythes could work well.



Very curious to see what other things we'll be able to do. Especially the other summons and the higher-tier skills.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:34 PM
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And I genuinely do not follow your train of thought.

Kymon's Chosen detest Necromancers and will balk at the thought of one joining their ranks. The Order of Death's Vigil is wary of Inquisitors due to past relations, though they are generally more open than the zealous Chosen.

Adding dialogue responses based on masteries was frankly a long time coming and I hope we make fun use of it in future content as time allows.
Precisely this.

I never had an issue with characters being basically Kymon's Chosen classes (fire/lightning dual wield and sword and shield) joining Death's Vigil because nobody in it said they hated those specific classes, they just hate Kymon's Chosen themselves.

Kymon's Chosen actively hate Necromacers and the act of necromancy to the point that is why they fight Death's Vigil. What sense would it make for a Necromancer to able to join them? It won't. No apocalypse or end of the world would make a faction change their mind with that level of hatred.

This is like in Fallout New Vegas, a Caesar's Legion member being able to join NCR. They hate each other guts to the point they murder each other at the slightest opportunity.
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Judging by the picture of the Mastery I'm assuming the Necromancer and his minions are facing off against some of the new Aetherials we'll come across in the expansion. Aetherial Imps and what looks like a flesh hulk sized mutant with aether crystals on his back and at least 1 ranged cannon for an arm.
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Or maybe the Kymon's Chosen emissary will see right through your wicked ways and refuse to even acknowledge you...
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Mostly I feel that the choice should feel meaningful and contextually appropriate. The world seems more believable.

However, clever players may find ways to deceive the admissions process.
Despite the gripes of others, I am fucking hyped and loving it. I don't care if other people find necros boring (hell you haven't even revealed the rest of their skill set) I think a ton of people will be happy to relive their D2 necro days with new GD flair! I will be.

Though correct me if wrong but "fooling" the admissions process will totally be through conversation text? I'm really fucking looking forward to this:

Have 5 skellybro summons out, talk to Kymon's chosen about joining. Death's Vigil guy looks at me like, "Forreal man?"
Shrug my shoulders.
Get called heretic by Kymon bro.
"What? No no, I'm not a necromancer. Trusssssst me. This skeletal garb is just, uh, a fashion statement."
Get asked about my loyal skellybro army right behind me.
"What?!" *turns around* "Holy shit! When the hell did those appear. Oh uh, righhhhht. Yeah I just came from Arkovia and you see I was uhhhh cursed!
Yeah that's it! Cursed! Those damned Necromancers and their evil forbidden magic! Kymon damn them!
BY THE POWER OF KYMON BE BANISHED!!!"
*disband skellybro army* (sorry mates!)
Kymonbro doesn't look fully convinced, but after a while takes a deep breath and relents. "Alright, meet us at sorrow's bastion then."
Watch emissaries walk away, wink at the death's vigilbro as he leaves profoundly confused.

I am doom. I will slay the necromancers. Then I will be THE necromancer. The only Necromancer!!!

At some point in Cornucopia I think I will make a set themed around kymon's chosen that converts your necromancer summon damage types to kymon damage types. It'll leave the head piece open you so you can wear a ridiculously evil skeleton mask with shiny holy kymon's gear.
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:37 PM
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Kymon's Chosen actively hate Necromacers and the act of necromancy to the point that is why they fight Death's Vigil. What sense would it make for a Necromancer to able to join them? It won't. No apocalypse or end of the world would make a faction change their mind with that level of hatred.
You're right, and if you read the earlier comments like I suggested, you'd know that Necromancers cannot join the Kymon's Chosen.

Think there was a comment earlier about Kymon's Chosen Augments for Necromancers, think the new faction Augments should more than suffice as alternatives.
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