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Aha yes forgot about that quest for the outcast about that head. It has been in previously localization files. I think that should trigger the dialog which reveals who she really is. I do wonder who still visit the shrine of the forgotten god. Also at the secret area where Dravis found the ritual, on which his father didn't completed, the body laying on the ground seems the have a different player skin/model. However i can't see it correctly due the rift sitting on top of it.

Primordial = existed before the world cairn etc.
Ascendant = mortal once and now immortal/god.
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:00 PM
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I am just as confused as you.
Here's what made me think there is one

Wikia has something called Thelon's head, it's a quest item for Outcast's revenge, the final quest for Outcast faction.

The localization files i downloaded from a link posted earlier in this thread revealed details to A pledge to cairn quest which is the final quest for both the factions (Order and Chosen)

I saw dialogues with some new npc called Kory?

I see the Outcast witch revealing new things like how she and Thelon were the first to step on Cairn. But possessing a human made her change her mind about her kind's actions.
She and her kind are trying to make sure that Chthon never awakens/breaches the barrier of worlds



Btw if you mention Empyrion to Mogdrogen his reaction seems strange. And his dialogue confirms that Kymon has the backing of something vile.

Dialogue with the messenger reveals it is Korvaak and that Empyrion is gone(dafuq?). He apparently left. Korvaak is a primordial who has it in for Chthon.

The scribes notes indicate the Shrine of Forgotten God was recently visited, which means it has to be the shrine to Korvaak. So take a good look at his awesome character model.

Uroboruuk mentions that he has know this presence but now had forgotten, this aligns with what Kymon says, "Korvaak walked amongst us once" The remains of that form/avatar/incarnation is the Eye of the Korvaak

My theory, you guys is that Empyrion somehow went mad and became to be known as Korvaak. I say this cause why on earth would Archon Batholeon (can't spell his name, too lazy to google) ally himself with the Chosen. Heck, a dialogue with him indicates he's servent of Empyrion.

Plus, the tone of this game has been very dark (Diablo II dark, remember Marius?) So, i won't be surprised that a good deity went bad.

And a request can someone explain to me what the heck are Primordial, Ascendant deities? And what are the other deity tiers revealed so far. I must've missed it or forgotten it.
Localization files sometimes contain things that are not yet in game, or irrelevant. They come and go with the builds, and some of us have to work with them for translations. The final quest is one of them but the area is not ready yet. Kory is in game and gives backers their DLC items.

Primordial and Ascendants are explained when you hover over the affinities in the Devotion window. Mogdrogen says he's an ascendant and indirectly implies he was once mortal. On what world, I don't know, since the creation of Cairn should have come *after* the war of gods and the dismemberment of chthon, during which war Mog was created in order to help.

This cosmogony is too confusing, no wonder people have ended up worshipping lidless heathens, reckless widowers and cheated ragers.
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Well, I'll be darned. Zantai did show up. Ceno was right afterall
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:05 PM
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Localization files sometimes contain things that are not yet in game, or irrelevant. They come and go with the builds, and some of us have to work with them for translations. The final quest is one of them but the area is not ready yet. Kory is in game and gives backers their DLC items.

Primordial and Ascendants are explained when you hover over the affinities in the Devotion window. Mogdrogen says he's an ascendant and indirectly implies he was once mortal. On what world, I don't know, since the creation of Cairn should have come *after* the war of gods and the dismemberment of chthon, during which war Mog was created in order to help.

This cosmogony is too confusing, no wonder people have ended up worshipping lidless heathens, reckless widowers and cheated ragers.
Thanks, but how do you explain the wikia having an image of Archivist Thelon.
Also, one of the notes from one of Cronley's men said (two people, a man and a woman with green eyes) Thelon and Anasteria (Can't spell her name either) are the prime candidates for that.

As for Mogdrogen, that arrogant sob calls us a fool for even asking a genuine question. But his constellation lore indicates he was created before cairn during the war of Gods by them. He served the same purpose as Aetherials, only he didn't get betrayed (good thing he didn't cause we get to kill him.)

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John Bourbon boss fight shows him to be a Celestial, i am guessing that's just the devs on acid?
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:08 PM
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I do wonder who still visit the shrine of the forgotten god.
Probably Kymon himself. Or you know couples trying to "release the frustration"


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Also at the secret area where Dravis found the ritual, on which his father didn't completed, the body laying on the ground seems the have a different player skin/model. However i can't see it correctly due the rift sitting on top of it.
That probably is Dravis after a failed ritual attempt. The father is definitely Uroboruuk
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:13 PM
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@Zantai

After going through a bunch of posts i figured out you guys accidentally broke the game (overstatement to be honest, but didn't know how else to put it. Sorry if you feel offended but english isn't my primary language.)

I am running the original version released in Feb(B31 IIRC)

I know this much, that the current version's chest/trove runs drop Legendaries like candies in Charlie's factory.


So am i missing anything lore wise by not upgrading to the current version?
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:23 PM
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If you look a my post in a older topic: http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=23

The layout in the tomb of the forgotten god and also the links are interesting to read a bit.

Dahlia did write about here brother being a ghost so if the ritual didn't worked than that explains it.

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Old 03-30-2016, 03:24 PM
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Thanks, but how do you explain the wikia having an image of Archivist Thelon.
Also, one of the notes from one of Cronley's men said (two people, a man and a woman with green eyes) Thelon and Anasteria (Can't spell her name either) are the prime candidates for that.

As for Mogdrogen, that arrogant sob calls us a fool for even asking a genuine question.
The head is a quest item that someone probably extracted from the database and posted the icon.

It could be them that negotiated with Cronley, but then again seeing how he put their heads on a stake, it could be any duet of possessed archmages. They have green eyes too.

Mogdrogen... you don't question a god. Ever. Unless you got the dps, resist reduction and resistances. Then you can question them all you want.
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Old 03-30-2016, 03:35 PM
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Mogdrogen... you don't question a god. Ever. Unless you got the dps, resist reduction and resistances. Then you can question them all you want.
I am missing something here (haven't fought him yet had a few doubts whether it would put me at odds with rovers, now it's cleared). Resist reduction? On normal? He's buffed to do that? or is it on elite and ultimate
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From Dust Covered Journal
"I often wonder if King Rhowan was deceived, that by abdicating his throne he brought about the very thing he wished to flee?"

Interesting possibility. But unlikely in my opinion if it was Mogdrogen who convinced Rhowan to leave since Mog doesn't seem all that bright to me. Unless Mogdrogen himself was a pawn **INCEPTION SOUNDTRACK**
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