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Have there been reports of low rates of rare affixes on Groble effigies?

I have done some 15-20 runs for Stone effigies through the Pine Barrens and Tyrant's Hold (at level 100, on Ultimate), and never saw a rare affix; neither in Stone effigies nor, I think, on Ember ones. Are the rates just that low, or could there be a problem with the loot tables?
I have exactly the same problem. Almost 30 runs, and I've never seen a amber or stone rare. Are chances to drop a rare THAT low or maybe is it bugged?
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Rare affixes are not called "rare" for no reason. I sometimes need 250 runs for one single rare, and sometimes 5 times and get a double rare.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:37 PM
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Rare affixes are not called "rare" for no reason. I sometimes need 250 runs for one single rare, and sometimes 5 times and get a double rare.
250? Isn't that too much? If you can drop 4 MI during a run, does that mean you have 0.1% chance of getting a rare MI? Numbers don't seem right.

I have farmed several MI (including Alkamos "set") in the past, and I hadn't so many problems getting any green MI rare (getting a rare that you may like may take a lot of time, and that's fine). The last MI i farmed was a Leafmane Horn for my Cabalist. It took many runs getting a rare that i liked but i think it was fine, since other rare suffixes/affixes were dropping at a reasonable rate. Now i'm farming a stone effigy for my Spellbinder, and i have yet to see a rare (even the ember effigies dropping are yellows!). I wonder if i have more chances getting a rare from crucible.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:47 PM
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250? Isn't that too much? If you can drop 4 MI during a run, does that mean you have 0.1% chance of getting a rare MI? Numbers don't seem right.

I have farmed several MI (including Alkamos "set") in the past, and I hadn't so many problems getting any green MI rare (getting a rare that you may like may take a lot of time, and that's fine). The last MI i farmed was a Leafmane Horn for my Cabalist. It took many runs getting a rare that i liked but i think it was fine, since other rare suffixes/affixes were dropping at a reasonable rate. Now i'm farming a stone effigy for my Spellbinder, and i have yet to see a rare (even the ember effigies dropping are yellows!). I wonder if i have more chances getting a rare from crucible.
Leafmane Horn's can be shopped in AG

How many runs "needed" depends, there is a statistical variance of course.
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250? Isn't that too much? If you can drop 4 MI during a run, does that mean you have 0.1% chance of getting a rare MI? Numbers don't seem right.

I have farmed several MI (including Alkamos "set") in the past, and I hadn't so many problems getting any green MI rare (getting a rare that you may like may take a lot of time, and that's fine). The last MI i farmed was a Leafmane Horn for my Cabalist. It took many runs getting a rare that i liked but i think it was fine, since other rare suffixes/affixes were dropping at a reasonable rate. Now i'm farming a stone effigy for my Spellbinder, and i have yet to see a rare (even the ember effigies dropping are yellows!). I wonder if i have more chances getting a rare from crucible.
I only wish they had 0.1% chance of dropping. I'd be actually rich as fuck at this point.
I bet the chances for a rare MI is around 0.001, double rare would be 0.0001 at best.
But it's still RNG, so you might be a lucky motherfucker and get double rare three times in a row, like I did when Ancient Grove came out.

Just don't lose hope. Try to like farming, or, if you don't have time for that, either trade it or GDStash it. Both are practically cheating, so I'd recommend using GDStash instead.
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I bet the chances for a rare MI is around 0.001, double rare would be 0.0001 at best.
That doesn't make sense. I would assume that affix and suffix rolls are more or less independent.

So of chance if rolling rare pre- or suffix is x them chance of rolling both pre- and suffix rare should be of the order x^2

Thus if chance rare MI is around 0.1% (1:1000), chance of double rare is around 0.0001% or 1:1000000

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That doesn't make sense. I would assume that affix and suffix rolls are more or less independent.

So of chance if rolling rare pre- or suffix is x them chance of rolling both pre- and suffix rare should be of the order x^2

Thus if chance rare MI is around 0.1% (1:1000), chance of double rare is around 0.0001% or 1:1000000
I have a sandstorm groble effigy and a thunderstruck one, but I never bother to farm them as they always have terrible affixes drop in MC. So, crucible is your (not) friend, even it boring as f***.
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Old 03-15-2019, 02:46 PM
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After several more runs, i was finally able to see a Stone Effigy dropping with a rare affix, the Sandstorm one, which has a 8% phys res so, despite some other stats are not so good for my build, i think it's a good time to stop "farming".
It seems rare affixes are really rare if they drop from trash mobs, and not from heroes (stone effigies drop only from witchdoctor and geomancers), while MI dropping from heroes/bosses seem to have a way higher chance to drop a rare affix.
I kept seeing yellow/magic affixes everywhere, there was even a time when the game trolled me dropping 2 effigies with the exact same yellow prefix/suffix few meters away


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Old 03-15-2019, 07:43 PM
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I agree, its not worth hunting these common monsters as they mostly drop trashes. I gave up on hunting a death groble as 99% drops are bad affixes.
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