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Old 06-19-2017, 11:06 AM
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Default [1.0.0.9] 2H Lame Physical WitchBlade

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Theorycrafted update of the build

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/Q2zRmkd2




Hey everyone its me again, i was bored and thought i could share this one, its pretty straight forwards and obvious build, but it could be usefull to some people, at least i hope.

So yeah another physical WB, why add this one to the list ? well why not ?!
Sheet DPS goes pretty high once more, even if we all know there is a difference between that DPS and the actual in game DPS, still its always satisfying to reach such numbers, and yeah its stupid.

Whatever here are couple of pics to show my words:



Those are with procs on obviously.

grimtool link here (click)

Few words about the build and gearing

Its physical build so, just max cadence, CoF, and breaking moral (i dont know why its 11/12 on grimtool btw, maybe cause of +skills of relic) and you have it.
Since its physical build it aint gear dependent, but obviously warborn set and leviathan are the obvious choices, same for ring of the black matriarch.
Depending of how you build you res, you can take Mark of Divinity as medal, but i didnt felt like it was needed.
About ADCTH, if you dont have the medal and/or decent solael pants (then take chausses of barbaros) think about restless remains component, and also lifegiver ring is a good option if you dont have good cronley ring.

About JoVs setup (see it just a bit under), Badge of Mastery is indeed best choice, obviously loosing Black star of deceit will make res a bit more tricky to cap, especially for chaos, and Potent Essence of Chthon as weap augment will be even more needed; also switching to Grasp of Unchained Might gloves instead of Voidsteel Gauntlets will make you loose a bit more chaos res but its proc is more than welcomed giving us +10 attack speed and assuming you have one "of kings" item our attack speed will reach, under procs around 185% which is pretty pretty good for a 2h (remember Leviathan doesnt give us attack speed also); as JoV said an "ordered" affixe will be well needed to cap our res. This setup sureoffers more damage output especially will all procs on; still it will need you to get more specific MIs to cap res and get enough ACDTH; feel free to go for it if your gear allows you to. Personaly i kept Giant Blood devotion.

also check this thread by jajaja, even if its a bit old it will still show you pretty well how you can build physical char without that much gear here (click)
yeah its a warder, you can also go for shaman but i prefered occultist for CoF, attack speed from solael witchfire and Blood of Dreeg with poison and physical res, and OA. Still with Shaman youll get more HP and mana wont be an issue, cause yeah its one of the cons.

About devotion

First youll noticed its almost same as the one Jajaja offered
The deal is to grab both Kraken and Oleron.
For those who aint familiar with this, to grab Kraken just complet a random constellation like Eel to unlock Kraken, once Kraken is unlocked and completed youll be able to reset the points in Eel.
I took Owl cause of the -5% energy cost and 15% reflected dmg reduction, but you could totally take empty throne instead if you need it to cap your res or hammer.

Skills and attributes points

As said earlier the deal is to max cadence, CoF, and Breaking Moral; then care about oleron rage and dont forget to give attack speed some needed love from squad tactics and solael witchblade; whatever the gear you have you should have way enough skill points to do that, aint mandatory at all to put as much points in blitz but i honestly didnt know where to put them, you could put 2 in bloody pox to get fevered rage to increase kill times a bit, but becarefull with that ...
About attributes, put a very few in spirit to equip the needed gear, same for physique then rest in cunning to reach decent OA, feel free to adjust according to your needs and tastes.
Again about Jovs set up, you can also go full physique even if it aint needed to get decent DA.

Gameplay

As i already said, prepare some mana potions, but its manageable enough imo; also other main con is the lack of AOE dmg, CoF with falcon swoop sure help a lot, but be aware its not where this build shines.
Breaking moral is only needed on bosses/heroes or bigger mobs like flesh hulks, you shouldnt need it against the rest.
As you saw on pics, the damage can be a bit random due to its large range, but expect some pretty high crits that can reach 300K in campaign...
could do crazy numbers in crucible, i didnt tried but this build isnt made to be played in this mode anyway imo.

Lots already been said about physical witchblade, so i wont say more about, still i felt i could add this one to the list since its 2h, its more than viable over whole campaign content, including nemesis; and again very flexible about the gearing and so can be "rookie" friendly.

I hope it will be usefull to some and, as always feel free to comment, ask questions and give opinions !
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:40 AM
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Was there supposed to be an augment on your weapon?
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Was there supposed to be an augment on your weapon?
oh yaeh right, dunno what happened, put potent creed cunning or anything that may cover res if needed
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oh yaeh right, dunno what happened, put potent creed cunning or anything that may cover res if needed
Imho potent essence of Chthon would be better option.

Nice build, I have similar one tho with a bit different gear and devotions.

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Old 06-19-2017, 02:38 PM
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Imho potent essence of Chthon would be better option.

Nice build, I have similar one tho with a bit different gear and devotions.

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ah yeah didnt thought of dire bear, hmmm
still i wonder how you reach such OA while going full (or almost i assume) physique
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ah yeah didnt thought of dire bear, hmmm
still i wonder how you reach such OA while going full (or almost i assume) physique
For starters he has BoM medal. I would replace Black star
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2H Lame Physical WitchBlade
2H build is badass by default. Or is that a code for "nothing to nerf here"?

100k dps... I think my full ultos Warder was at 50k at best.

I had the same idea earlier this year but completely lacked Warborn.

It's not the same as jajaja's since jajaja's Warder uses Savagery instead.

EDIT: wish Markovian was a viable set for 2H builds. Would be twice as badass cuz of looks alone.
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2H build is badass by default. Or is that a code for "nothing to nerf here"?

100k dps... I think my full ultos Warder was at 50k at best.

I had the same idea earlier this year but completely lacked Warborn.
oh i agree, i love 2h and would love to see them more efficient

i put lame in title instead of "+100K DPS insane DPS" cause it would be wrong, and also i think we had enough such titles lately
Also "lame" cause its straight forwards build, nothing original or difficult to understand in it, and kinda hold LMB; and i love being ironical.

With all those physicalk witchblade with warborn we had at some point, i just felt i could post a 2h for a change, that is again, really viable and "noob" friendly since its physique.

ill try with BoM but i believe ill need to steal some MI from other chars to cap res then, arghh feeling lazy ...
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2H build is badass by default. Or is that a code for "nothing to nerf here"?

100k dps... I think my full ultos Warder was at 50k at best.

I had the same idea earlier this year but completely lacked Warborn.

It's not the same as jajaja's since jajaja's Warder uses Savagery instead.

EDIT: wish Markovian was a viable set for 2H builds. Would be twice as badass cuz of looks alone.
Similar to AAR builds, 2H phys builds look really good on paper, but noting more, in any other aspect they are mediocre when comparing to DW or S&B.

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ill try with BoM but i believe ill need to steal some MI from other chars to cap res then, arghh feeling lazy ...
Im using ordered soleal sect of natures bounty as pant, ring is dreadlords of alacrity, boots are same as yours.

P.S. It is full physique, but again basic value of 2.6k OA is mediocre and should be easy achievable. Setups has 3 procs that are significantly upping OA and that is pretty much redeeming in that aspect.
Also I pumped OR to 16/12 to get some more OA and flat trauma, trauma DOTs are in range of 60-70k whit usage of Olerons Blood, with addition on blitz they could achieve more than 80k easy.

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