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Old 05-04-2016, 05:31 PM
sherkhan sherkhan is offline
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Default [Druid] Sherkhan's Thunderstrike (2H Ranged PS | 50 Shaman 15 Arcanist) Vet@L43 Elite@L64

This is my first character in Grim Dawn. Finished Veteran at L43, Elite at L64, and just finished A3 Ultimate at L77 which appears to be mid-fast. Proof of kills

Putting the barebones out here for the people who asked - haven't seen any other writeups quite along the same lines.

Concept

Plant lots of Arcane Bombs on enemies while dealing massive ST+AOE damage with Primal Strike. Have Wind Devils reduce resistances while dealing high lightning damage through Maelstrom and Tempest. Use Grasping Vines and a L1 Briarthorn to keep enemies at bay while you kill them. Maiven for protection, Mirror for WTF situations.

Since GD damage modifiers don't stack on conversion (unlike POE), the offense in this setup only scales lightning damage, and benefits from lightning conversion to maximize damage output. Viper (x% reduced), Primal/ArcaneBomb(-x to lightning) and Wind Devil/Raging Tempests(xx reduced) are used to reduce resistances.

Defensively, this draws on "slow" mechanics from passives and devotions (Wind Devils, Vines) to ensure mobs are kept at bay, while dealing high amounts of lightning damage and debuffing.

The build is tanky enough (finished Veteran with 10k HP, Elite with 7k - inverted, I know) to be run as melee, but I prefer kiting since the melee animations seem too lurchy for me.

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Playstyle

Keybinds:
Move, Vines, Wind Devil, Primal Strike [main whatever you use to play]
Health Pot, Energy Pot, Mirror, Potions, Briarthorn
Auras [only need to turn them on once per game]

Cast Vines on packs/bosses. Cast Wind Devils (for debuff, damage). Attack with Primal Strike from a distance. Resurrect Briarthorn as needed. Hit pots / Mirror as needed. Aether Bomb on Primal, Tsunami on Vines, Tempest on Wind Devils.

Auras are Maiven, Modrogen, Stormcaller's Pact, Lightning Aura (Hell's Bane Ammo), Iskandra.

One point wonders: Briarthorn + Ground Slam (for aggro), Mogdrogen's Pact (for Heart of the Wild), Wind Devil (for Raging + Maelstrom), Mirror of Ereoctes (for 3s immunity)

Gear

I used white/magic rifles till I could purchase Chosen Bolt from Kymon's people. Still using this L33 weapon in Ultimate. Will upgrade to the Elite version when I get enough Kymon Rep. The other lightning conversion epics/legendaries also work well.

Stormcaller's Sash is the only other epic offensive item I'm using at the moment. Not planning on cheating to have perfect gear. Rest are OA on gear.

Defensively, haven't really figured it out. Using HP/Res/DA gear in most slots. Just picked up Wyrmscale Footguards which seem to work pretty well.

Last edited by sherkhan; 05-10-2016 at 11:23 PM. Reason: Updated Devotions
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:36 PM
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Hey! I recognize your name from the PoE forums :P

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Since GD damage modifiers don't stack on conversion
Can you explain this a little more?

Looks interesting. I'm working on something similar, although it's a bit squishier than I'd like. You're managing ok without Wendigo Totem?
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:43 PM
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I seem to remember two posts with similar builds awhile back. Both were using Raka'Jax, the legendary Xbow. Try getting your hands on Nar's Arcane Destroyer, Ulda'Jax or Thunderclap if you are level 75.

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Old 05-04-2016, 07:52 PM
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Hey! I recognize your name from the PoE forums :P
Break time ;>

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Can you explain this a little more? "Since GD damage modifiers don't stack on conversion"
In POE, if you convert physical to elemental, both the +% phys and +% ele modifiers apply to the end damage. In GD, only the +% ele would apply to converted damage.

The PS skill essentially adds flat physical and flat lightning to your main attack. All the other options in Shaman add flat lightning. In my setup, I've avoided scaling physical (cept a little bit at Kraken, but that was unintentional), and instead go for as much conversion as possible. That lets me focus on lightning/elemental scaling and elemental resistance debuffs.

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Looks interesting. I'm working on something similar, although it's a bit squishier than I'd like. You're managing ok without Wendigo Totem?
If I go melee, I feel superhuman till one of the AOE chaos/poison vomits get me. The ranged setup is a kite build, and doesn't feel that squishy (just requires awareness).

Wendigo totem has poor synergy with my ranged setup. I don't scale vitality damage anywhere (cept maybe Revenant), and I'll rarely be within a 10m radius of enemies. Leech from Ghoul + Revenant (+ gear, maybe) applies to all damage, which is more than enough to sustain in fights (
%leech in GD seems to work like VP in POE). Plus, it scales naturally with damage.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:54 PM
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I seem to remember two posts with similar builds awhile back. Both were using Raka'Jax, the legendary Xbow. Try getting your hands on Nar's Arcane Destroyer, Ulda'Jax or Thunderclap if you are level 75.
Yup. Those bows are on my list. Currently L65 making my way through A1 Ultimate.

I see a lot of "get XX" recommendations in GD. In POE, there's a huge trade economy, so it's just a matter of time to earn one. I'm playing solo on my laptop, and the only way I'll see something is if I drop it.

Are all the "get XX" recs aimed towards the multiplayer gamers, or under the assumption that someone will hexedit to get the item?
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Old 05-04-2016, 08:29 PM
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Yup. Those bows are on my list. Currently L65 making my way through A1 Ultimate.

I see a lot of "get XX" recommendations in GD. In POE, there's a huge trade economy, so it's just a matter of time to earn one. I'm playing solo on my laptop, and the only way I'll see something is if I drop it.

Are all the "get XX" recs aimed towards the multiplayer gamers, or under the assumption that someone will hexedit to get the item?
Indeed, I played PoE for two years.

As far as the items go, I trade for what I needed here in these forums. Currently, I pretty much own every legendary in the game, so finding items to try on builds is not as hard at the moment. I do not use GDSidekick, nor hex to get any of my items personally, everything was self found, or traded for.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:03 AM
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Indeed, I played PoE for two years.

As far as the items go, I trade for what I needed here in these forums. Currently, I pretty much own every legendary in the game, so finding items to try on builds is not as hard at the moment. I do not use GDSidekick, nor hex to get any of my items personally, everything was self found, or traded for.
Ah. I'm not planning on going online (enjoying my lag-free experience). I guess I'll see what falls my way. On paper, it seems that the Elite Chosen Bolt is near Rax in terms of damage output. Just missing the +x to Shaman skills. Considering how comfortable 75+ content feels on a 65 char with a 33 weapon, I think a 70 weapon will suffice when I get there ;> Just need to kill some Cthonians.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:30 AM
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Ah. I'm not planning on going online (enjoying my lag-free experience). I guess I'll see what falls my way. On paper, it seems that the Elite Chosen Bolt is near Rax in terms of damage output. Just missing the +x to Shaman skills. Considering how comfortable 75+ content feels on a 65 char with a 33 weapon, I think a 70 weapon will suffice when I get there ;> Just need to kill some Cthonians.
We do have trade forums here, you basically join a game solely for the purpose of a trade and jump back out. No lag there.

If interested, go here: http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27 and the first two threads have plenty of stuff for trade.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:02 PM
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In POE, if you convert physical to elemental, both the +% phys and +% ele modifiers apply to the end damage. In GD, only the +% ele would apply to converted damage.
Lol, that's how physical->piercing used to work in Titty Quest. It was broken as fuck since Dexterity increased both damage types.


On the topic of the build:

1. You would benefit greatly from going up to Elemental balance. Crit damage is an amazing damage multiplier in GD, you can never have enough of it. Depending on how much +skills you use, going further to Conversion would be pretty good as well. Stun resistance is really hard to get and something that opens up new farming options once you acquire enough of it (most notably Anesteria, if you don't have her helmet yet, also Avatar of Mogdrogen if that's your thing). I'm willing to spend 2 devotion points and a helmet augment for 40% on my lightning Warder for the fights I mentioned. That's just an option, but Elemental balance is a must imo.

2. Pick up 1-point wonders like Storm surge and Arcane will. Consider Grasping+Entangling vines if you prefer to play ranged, it's one of the best CC skills.

3. You want Falcon swoop attached to Primal strike, it's bay far the best devotion proc for any 2-hander build (including rifles/xbows) and it's even better for Primal strike builds because Primal strike and Storm surge count as separate attacks that occur at the same time, giving you 27.75% effective chance to proc Falcon swoop.

4. Get Wendigo totem to the highest level divisible by 3 you can! Non-negotiable, it's the single best sustain skill in the game.

5. Resistance reduction is king in GD. Get the Widow constellation and bind Arcane bomb to Grasping wines, it will proc like crazy. Consider Ulzuin's hat once you get access to it (it's craftable so you could ask someone to make one for you if you don't consider it cheating).

6. More on your devotion choices, since they look like a mess. Hawk gives 3%+15 OA and 8% crit damage for 3 points, it would be amazing even if your build didn't require green devotion anyway. No-brainer. With Falcon, this brings you up to 6, which means you can drop the completely useless Spider. Ghoul is pretty ineffective. It gives you 4% extra attack speed (20% 1/5 of the time and nothing 4/5 of the time) with an awkward way of activating. Jackal gives you 6% and the same +3 red devotion. The lifesteal is more useful to you than to most 2-hander Primal strike builds, but it's still kinda pointless because of #4. 3 points into Behemoth (up to the skill) will do wonders for your survivability as well. Hourglass is complete shit, petrify doesn't work on bosses (the only enemies that have a chance in hell of hurting you) and the slow doesn't stack with Wind devil. While revenant is not bad, it's not really good. The skellies are completely useless, lifesteal is superfluous and the attack speed bonus inefficient. Turtle is pretty meh as well. The passive bonus to health and armor is useful but too small and the activated skill is garbage because it goes before resistances. Removing Turtle and Revenant and replacing them with Lizard (regeneration is awesome!) and red Crossroads will still let you keep Spear. Consider 4 points in Dying god, it's the single most effective way of boosting OA for your char. The activated skill is not bad for you either if you have 2 points to spare, it's almost always up and gives a massive boost to crit damage and some speed.

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Old 05-05-2016, 01:57 PM
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1. You would benefit greatly from going up to Elemental balance.
I've been eyeing that, just seemed like a lot of points.

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Consider Grasping+Entangling vines if you prefer to play ranged
Would you put more than 1 point into each?

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3. You want Falcon swoop attached to Primal strike, it's bay far the best devotion proc for any 2-hander build (including rifles/xbows) and it's even better for Primal strike builds because Primal strike and Storm surge count as separate attacks that occur at the same time, giving you 27.75% effective chance to proc Falcon swoop.
Huh, I haven't tried this yet. So you attach Arcane Bomb (or Elemental Storm) to Grasping Vines instead, even in a melee build? I assumed Arcane Bomb would be most important to have with Primal Strike. Do you use Wind Devil or Storm Totem?

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4. Get Wendigo totem to the highest level divisible by 3 you can! Non-negotiable, it's the single best sustain skill in the game.
I'm confused about this on ranged characters. I noticed that it doesn't go off and start healing my life unless I'm standing quite close to it (even when I have 12 points in it), so it seems amazing for melee but terrible for ranged.

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6. More on your devotion choices
Tell me more

So you'd do something like Viper, Falcon, Hawk, 3 points in Behemoth, Widow, Kraken, Lizard, Jackal, Tsunami + Wraith (need something for more Primordial), Spear of the Heavens? I think that only leaves 2 or 3 devotion points.

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