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Old 03-21-2017, 12:39 AM
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So, still nothing frost-based on archer/ranger-esque?

Oh well, maybe next time.

Any chance you'll actually fix the aura issues for the expansion?
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Old 03-22-2017, 09:30 PM
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Which aura issues? last i knew they were fixed. Auras should not effect other people, therefore, not killing other players. Which was the issue.
That's the issue. They never fixed the auras, they simply removed them. I'm still holding out for an actual fix so I can return to the game come the expansion.
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That's the issue. They never fixed the auras, they simply removed them. I'm still holding out for an actual fix so I can return to the game come the expansion.
The auras were not removed, they just no longer affect other players.
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The auras were not removed, they just no longer affect other players.
Splitting hairs. Auras that are not auras are not auras. Don't be ridiculous.
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Splitting hairs. Auras that are not auras are not auras. Don't be ridiculous.
It affects you and your pets, so claiming they do not exist is a lot more ridiculous than saying they no longer affect other players. You made it sound like the whole buff is gone. If you want to focus on the 'aura' part, be my guest
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It affects you and your pets, so claiming they do not exist is a lot more ridiculous than saying they no longer affect other players. You made it sound like the whole buff is gone. If you want to focus on the 'aura' part, be my guest
They don't. The auras were removed, and replaced with passives for the summons, unless they changed it again. I haven't actually played since they removed the auras, since I have no interest in it, so I may not be entirely up to date.

Regardless, I want to see them returned, obviously.

Edit: Here's the relevant patch notes, in case you missed them: http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51280

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Auras granted by Components have been converted to self buffs. This was done in response to the rare issues reported in regards to those auras killing players in Multiplayer (particularly in Hardcore mode). [...] As this change is detrimental to pet builds, these skills now also give pet bonuses. [...]
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Splitting hairs. Auras that are not auras are not auras. Don't be ridiculous.
I wouldn't hold your breath over it. They had been trying to track that bug unsuccessfully for a very long time and even released numerous fixes that they had hoped might resolve it which of course proved unsuccessful.

It doesn't help that noone was ever able to successfully reproduce it in a reliable fashion, which complicates the issue considerably. I don't blame them for making the decision to 1) implement it in a fashion that no longer was killing players, and 2) washing their hands of it to focus on other things.

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Splitting hairs. Auras that are not auras are not auras. Don't be ridiculous.
Wasn't there a Crate post somewhere saying this was a lingering bug from Titan Quest? Not to belittle Crate, but...Expecting them to fix a bug that old, with how much effort must've already been spent on it...? Seems like a long shot.
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They don't. The auras were removed, and replaced with passives for the summons, unless they changed it again.
yes semantics.... when you said they removed the aura I assumed you meant the buff was removed entirely.

All that changed is that it is now a buff to the player and the pets. So for SP there is no difference whatsoever. For MP you now do not have the aura buffs of other players.
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yes semantics.... when you said they removed the aura I assumed you meant the buff was removed entirely.

All that changed is that it is now a buff to the player and the pets. So for SP there is no difference whatsoever. For MP you now do not have the aura buffs of other players.
This.

Also, remember...This game is a SINGLE player game, that happens to have multi tacked on. The priority seems pretty clearly to be single player, and as a single player? I appreciate that.
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