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Old 01-15-2018, 06:25 PM
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Good build Tz
Great job coming up with a non-Soldier Retaliation build



How will Counter Strike work on a vindicator though?
Ah sry man, was just wondering why beronath amulet for redlect and not full set....tired

but, maybe he tested it anyway with another char?
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:27 PM
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Ah sry man, was just wondering why beronath amulet for redlect and not full set....tired

but, maybe he tested it anyway with another char?
Reflection isn't very powerful though. Even with 400% Reflection I couldn't do much in base game. So imo he should consider dropping Beronath
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:28 PM
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Nice !
How to level this ?

Thank you in advance !
Leveling with Storm Totem, Wind Devil, Reckless Tempest + Elemental Storm
It should be easy leveling with Shaman

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Hey, How is CS with this guy? I made phys CS with MI bulwark and was meh.

Pre AoM i made battery powered warder, lightning cs+storm pact+ avenger relic and was great
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Good build Tz
Great job coming up with a non-Soldier Retaliation build
How will Counter Strike work on a vindicator though?
Thanks

I think Superfluff mean CS with Warder

Here's the Warder version, it's unfinished test
I just starve of skill points

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXMXg82
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Reflection isn't very powerful though. Even with 400% Reflection I couldn't do much in base game. So imo he should consider dropping Beronath
yah not on it's own for sure. But if you have over 100% reflect you really screw resistant bosses who rr you
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yah not on it's own for sure. But if you have over 100% reflect you really screw resistant bosses who rr you
Yeah 100% Reflect is obviously potent but I was talking about damage potential of reflection. I wanted to try pumping reflection over 400% in vanilla using MIs but I lacked the MIs to do it.
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:32 PM
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Leveling with Storm Totem, Wind Devil, Reckless Tempest + Elemental Storm
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Thanks a lot, i'll check that !
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:38 PM
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Thanks a lot, i'll check that !
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Yeah 100% Reflect is obviously potent but I was talking about damage potential of reflection. I wanted to try pumping reflection over 400% in vanilla using MIs but I lacked the MIs to do it.
Arcanist's Mirror will give you a lot of reflect damage
Initially I wanna try using Druid
But 3 seconds Mirror is to short
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Yeah 100% Reflect is obviously potent but I was talking about damage potential of reflection. I wanted to try pumping reflection over 400% in vanilla using MIs but I lacked the MIs to do it.
Well i've done it but is only fun vs high dps targets. Now with 3.3 duration+TD mirror and turion's reprisal, who knows, a cool retal reflect hybrid
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:50 PM
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Well i've done it but is only fun vs high dps targets. Now with 3.3 duration+TD mirror and turion's reprisal, who knows, a cool retal reflect hybrid
Turrion's Reprisal seems like nice shield for Mage Hunter, Druid, Battlemage or perhaps Sorceress

Which class combination it's very suitable for?
I think Warlock has to low HP for reflect/retal build
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Turrion's Reprisal seems like nice shield for Mage Hunter, Druid, Battlemage or perhaps Sorceress

Which class combination it's very suitable for?
I think Warlock has to low HP for reflect/retal build
I'd try a weird Mage hunter first and see what happens. Campaign only mindset to actually have fun with it

Was referring to the myth version
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