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Old 03-30-2018, 07:07 AM
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You have a typo in your guide. Valguur gives 8% Life Leech RR and 10% ADCtH. Yours says "10% Life Leech RR"
yes, right.
Its Death Prophet from Dota2 =)
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Crate won't remove his nullification. Some players like it (I don't)
Nah I don't want to deal with the combination of life reduction, high burst dmg, Fumble pool, player dmg reduction, nullification, one-shoting energy burn. Some ppl like it? I'm glad for them.
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:13 AM
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Maybe I am in the minority of players but I never found Mark of Torment good (don't crucify me)

I guess it's cause I took a projectile heavy build when the expac was new and got shredded by Rashalga despite applying MoT on her. Ever since then I have always kinda hated that skill.

But yeah, 2x MoT does make sense if crucible were to be his aim. Thanks
Why not? it's 50% absorb for 5 sec.With TD 10 sec. It's a huuge deal. Not just crucible. This build or uroboruuk would die vs MQ even with the heal or dropping RE for no shotgun.
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:31 AM
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I think like it or not, MoT is needed to complete crucible in every necromancer build that do not have gigantic DA.

BTW, thank for the devotion idea, Ptirodaktil!
I just complete 150 crucible with no buff and banner with my valguur cabalist.
So freaking smooth, facetanking fabius & iron maiden without sweat.
170 is different animal though. Still need to hone my skills.

I use this almost exact item configuration before but with different devo, taking fiend, wendigo, aeon, dying god, and tree of life, but cannot complete 150 without buff. I am just surprised that different devotion can matter soo much in this build.

Edit: looks like vitality drain essence build can use this devotion pattern also.
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:34 AM
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Why not? it's 50% absorb for 5 sec.With TD 10 sec. It's a huuge deal. Not just crucible. This build or uroboruuk would die vs MQ even with the heal or dropping RE for no shotgun.
I guess I had unrealistic expectations from it. I thought I could handle 1 million projectiles with Mark and ended up hating it once it couldn't.
It is good though, saved my Cabalist against The Reaper in Crucible. Sure I died cause of my own mistake later on but MoT did save me


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Nah I don't want to deal with the combination of life reduction, high burst dmg, Fumble pool, player dmg reduction, nullification, one-shoting energy burn. Some ppl like it? I'm glad for them.

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Edit: looks like vitality drain essence build can use this devotion pattern also.
I am not so sure about that. This devotion path feels exclusive to Life Leech builds for the rest I don't think dropping Wendigo is a good idea imo.
But more importantly for DE you need Tree of Life or Harp so I don't think it'd be worth it
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:40 AM
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yes, right.
Its Death Prophet from Dota2 =)

Nah I don't want to deal with the combination of life reduction, high burst dmg, Fumble pool, player dmg reduction, nullification, one-shoting energy burn. Some ppl like it? I'm glad for them.
That fumble poo(l) + kuba pool is the bane of DW chars
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:46 AM
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Leveling guide:
1) Start the game.
2)Kill stuff.
3)Levelup
4)Kill some more.
5)Levelup.
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Profit!
FTW!!!

Anyway. thanks for your Valguur build. Had the set for a while now without a clue on how to use it.
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The only one bad in this build - too wide thread pic)
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Fixed it. @OP - maybe you can upload a smaller image.
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Fixed it. @OP - maybe you can upload a smaller image.
Resized it

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Tnx, sry. :roll:
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