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Old 10-16-2018, 08:05 PM
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I will try again once the patch is out. Playing aether BWC right now with Clairvoayant set and it feel good
Mind sharing your build? I just had the idea earlier today to bind Aetherfire (Imp) to spammy Aether BWC for some theoretically-good times.

One thing I'm noticing though is that there are basically no skillmods on gear that give BWC Flat Damage without also converting some of its base damage. I find this really unfortunate and a grave oversight.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:20 PM
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I use spam BWC with the predictable setup. Mythical Herald of the blazing ends, mythical infernal nights set and Zarthuzelan codex. Dryad being a must have constellation because I went Purifier not Sorceror. It's pretty bloody strong.

I also took Fissure but it's a no brainer on BWC builds. For caster based builds it definitely has a place in the game. I only use the transmuter on tank builds.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:31 PM
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https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2d6k6QZ here. Imp bound to Canister for maximum fps drop
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:32 PM
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Bah, sorc aether is for babies.

If I am still in the mood much later, I was thinking to try Pyro in something Aether-> Bwc-ish to test a bunch of the aether procs. You can get 100% fire+choas -> aether and near 2k % aether bonus. It's possible to do a DW pistol with dual Darkblaze (lol), or DW melee with warpfire/mindwarp

But it has almost no RR compared to the tons available for elemental stuff or sorc... and will suffer for lack of bonuses usable on the equipment.

It would be nice to see some more exotic various RR to demo stuff, than just the basic fire/lit.

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Old 10-16-2018, 09:37 PM
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Mind sharing your build? I just had the idea earlier today to bind Aetherfire (Imp) to spammy Aether BWC for some theoretically-good times.

One thing I'm noticing though is that there are basically no skillmods on gear that give BWC Flat Damage without also converting some of its base damage. I find this really unfortunate and a grave oversight.
https://www.grimtools.com/calc/d2jXjqxZ Bwc spam defiler to derp on
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Old 10-16-2018, 11:36 PM
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Well, this was an interesting discussion. I figured non-transmuted BWC all wrong. Thanks for your opinions, guys!

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Old 10-18-2018, 09:52 AM
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I had 2 Commandos with it.

Fire/Burn: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/YNnYXQpZ

Chaos: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/a2d50l1V

I think Fire/Burn BWC was better for me
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:26 PM
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made a video, a shitty quality video, but idk waht more than that can be done to prove it.

It's not a lot less powerful than it was in vanilla. That slight loss in power is complemented by petter procs, gear and in purifier case, better supporting skills. Also with the extra duration MI and no lag you can riddle th map with fire now

I've already done this on another thread so i'll stop here. I'm guessing people want Bwc spam to be 'nade spam with big dots
When you do a comparison, do you take into account the value of time freed up? e.g transmute the BWC and use stormfire from seal of destruction as spam ability instead? Seems like with transmute and stormfire approach you would get best of both worlds, spam skill + maximised burn dot from bwc (also devotion proc rate of bwc scales and remains great despite cd)?

Also for non-purifier you get physical damage reduction debuff from transmuted version. I can see how thematically its fun to set the world on fire but the untransmuted skill doesn't seem appealing beyond that.

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Old 10-18-2018, 01:55 PM
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When you do a comparison, do you take into account the value of time freed up? e.g transmute the BWC and use stormfire from seal of destruction as spam ability instead? Seems like with transmute and stormfire approach you would get best of both worlds, spam skill + maximised burn dot from bwc (also devotion proc rate of bwc scales and remains great despite cd)?

Also for non-purifier you get physical damage reduction debuff from transmuted version. I can see how thematically its fun to set the world on fire but the untransmuted skill doesn't seem appealing beyond that.
Heres a build similar to what you suggested first.. http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75321
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