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Old 09-05-2018, 04:11 AM
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If you want to use lightning, I would recommend this or this.
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:47 PM
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Default hi man

thank u very much for your response ... i also send u a PM ... i analize your suggested builds i think that https://www.grimtools.com/calc/b286vryZ it's more damage oriented than https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXzp0BV imho ... but anyway i'd like to ask some questions ...

-why in https://www.grimtools.com/calc/b286vryZ u go for the winter constelation as AoE damage instead of Widow for additional RR + lighting dmg

-why in https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXzp0BV u go less skill point in Storm Spirit if it's more damage oriented? i would put 12/12 in storm spirit since al pets benefit from it and u have 2 birds ... also why winter constellation instead of widow ...

i also wanna ask u ... i'm not a big fan of wendigo totem cause i always cause the bosses to attack me and then i have to kite outside of it's range and plus that the healing factor of the totem seems not so much to me but instead the vitality flat damage of blood pact will be more helpful. can u give some tips about to play without drawing aggro

another thing it's the relic choice .. i have eye of storm(more melee oriented imho) primal instinct (more pets but no so great bonuses) bysmiel domination (great bonuses) and mogdrogen ardor (this i dont have it but i can farm it, except for superbosses all AoM content its a piece of cake to me, including nemesis) ... u suggested primal spirit ... why?

dont get me wrong i appreciate a lot ur suggestions just want to understand why because i want to get better at this game
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:10 PM
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Default this is my final build taking your suggestions

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/4NOpA9e2

please tell me ur opinion thanks in advance
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:43 PM
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-why in https://www.grimtools.com/calc/b286vryZ u go for the winter constelation as AoE damage instead of Widow for additional RR + lighting dmg
Arcane bomb cannot bind to pets, so you need to use an extra active skill and end up drawing more agro, also you already have 107% lighting RR. Arcane bombs are also summoned under random enemies and take time to arm after being summoned, so it doesn't end up hitting your intended target. Blizzard deals great AoE damage, and can shotgun single targets as well. You have 107% full elemental RR, and most of your damage bonuses are all/elemental, so it ends up being much more useful against lightning resistant enemies than Arcane Bomb is.

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-why in https://www.grimtools.com/calc/1NXzp0BV u go less skill point in Storm Spirit if it's more damage oriented? i would put 12/12 in storm spirit since al pets benefit from it and u have 2 birds
The extra bonus from storm spirit is very small compared to the damage your pets already do. There are only so many points to go around, and I think they are better spent elsewhere.

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i also wanna ask u ... i'm not a big fan of wendigo totem cause i always cause the bosses to attack me and then i have to kite outside of it's range and plus that the healing factor of the totem seems not so much to me but instead the vitality flat damage of blood pact will be more helpful. can u give some tips about to play without drawing aggro
In my experience, between Primal Bond, Wendigo Totem, and Ishtak's you can pretty much face tank anything in the game other than Ravager. The flat damage from Blood pact is pretty much irrelevant.

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another thing it's the relic choice .. i have eye of storm(more melee oriented imho) primal instinct (more pets but no so great bonuses) bysmiel domination (great bonuses) and mogdrogen ardor (this i dont have it but i can farm it, except for superbosses all AoM content its a piece of cake to me, including nemesis) ... u suggested primal spirit ... why?
You have a lot of general elemental RR and all/elemental damage bonuses, and a decent amount of flat damage. Swarmlings deal 200 flat fire, most of their physical will be converted to Lightning, and you have a bunch of flat damage on top of that. They also provide a lot more targets to draw agro. In my experience Primal Instinct is the best relic for non-skeleton pet builds.
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Old 09-07-2018, 02:26 PM
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Default thanks for all the help

hi there bro ... it took me a while to test my new build that's the reason i havent write you sooner ... i appreciated a lot ur help in shaping my character for the engame's challenges...
this is my final build

https://www.grimtools.com/calc/dVbDOmEN

i took in consideration must of your advices... here is a list of changes i made and the reason for them

- constellation ... i changed blizzard for hand of ultos because i did not have enough level in blizzard and ultos incorporates elemental reduction that can only be achieve by viper constellation ... so i get RR AoE damage ... less cooldown ... i certainly lost CC because blizzard slow and freezes must non-bosses

-familiar summon skill point ... familiar are greats .. deal a lot of damage with orbs but according with a thepowermediocrity post i read they lost a lot of that attack to the walls because the angle between projectiles it's big
so i decided since i have 2 familiar to let them have 2 orbs each that in my perspective covers enough AoE without wasting additional points ... by the other hand i put hand of ultos to familiar so they proc a lot of lightning including lightning strikes ... the saved points i put them in my hellhound ... that makes him more tanky and deals additional damage ... now i dont need to be constantly reviving him ...

-the other thing i changed was the pants ... i prefer wildshorns over chausses of barbaros because the +3 to the flat auras and the retaliation damage ... one of the most wonderful things about your advices its that my only aggro spell its CoF so must of the time my pets are the ones taking the damage as should be so ... more retaliation damage accompany with the hound constellation and emboldening presence can be very effective imho.

results well i dont measure times of completing challenges so ... i did finish mogdrogen , ravager(again), and finally crucible gladiator 150-170 with 4 blessing no banners ... lokkar, and the kraken(this one was lame)

well that's all ... i was wondering if you could review my changes and tell me your considerations .. thanx a lot in advance ... im looking forward to the new expansion Forgotten Gods and the shattern realm mode to really test my build ...
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