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Old 11-17-2017, 07:09 PM
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Default [1.3.0 Mage Hunter] CD Frostmage - simple newb friendly caster build

This is a caster build using Trozan sky shard and rune of Hagarrad (RoH) with cooldown reduction (CDR).

Trozan builds had been there for quite a long time, however, they were never particularly exciting or strong. Previous iterations of full caster trozan builds mostly used lots of sky shard procs to create "the sky is falling" effect. This one uses mostly skills direct damage instead with skill modifiers adding more damage, projectiles and reducing cooldowns. Adding one more short cooldown spell like this which is RoH turns it into crucible worthy and fun to play build with very strong AOE and sufficient single target damage.

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1.3.2 https://youtu.be/zAc2d4lk9s8 Crucible wave 140-150, two cold resistant nemesis
1.3.2 https://youtu.be/whzq2YUKjrk wave 150, Iron Maiden and sneaky Fabius

1.3.2 https://youtu.be/EJA79XaycZ4 Lokarr (spoiler!)

1.3.0 https://youtu.be/I-7sPFElV-A second summoning circle in the fields of despair, BOC
1.3.0 https://youtu.be/NfMAHrlETl4 same area as above in trash gear: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/w26JREA2 weapon is a common epic, pants and tome are the same as in the optimized setup, the rest is either faction gear or bought from vendors in ~10 min of shop farming. Not very spectacular but sufficient to get started with farming SOT and BOC.

1.2.1 https://youtu.be/H-MKGzaxiBw pre-nerf 1.2.1 Grava



Skills explanation

Trozan sky shard and RoH are the main damage dealers in the build doing high burst damage. I’d love to have some DOT together with it but am short on points to overcap frozen core and chillsurge. Highest DOT I’ve seen so far is 120K.

Mirror of Ereoctes grants us 3 seconds of invulnerability with ~11 sec cooldown.

Inquisitor’s seal allows to overcap elemental resistance if nothing else, if we have ~20% overcapped elemental res and add another 30% from the seal its enough to make foes like Shar’Zul and Valdaran harmless. Flat damage absorption can stop DOTs and is generally useful too, though could be better had the skill rank been raised to 18/12 or higher.

Word of renewal is a buff and instant heal on demand.

Nullification is a one-pointer used to remove auras and buffs from mobs like reflect, every arcanist knows (or should know) how important that is when going against Rashalga.

1 point in Panetti is there to proc Elemental storm.

Star pact is an exclusive skill which main function is cooldown reduction as mentioned already.

Maiven’s sphere grants %damage absorption which acts as multiplicative damage reduction, cutting all incoming damage by 20%.

Deadly aim, elemental balance and inner focus boost offensive ability and/or crit damage. Several of the builds devotion procs activate on crit so having some is important.


Gear explanation

Helm Myth Clairvoyant Hat used for +1 all skills and CDR
Shoulders Moosilauke's Shoulderguards +3 trozan, +3 RoH, hp, resist. No particular prefix and suffix is required
Chest Fateweaver's Raiment used for prismatic aura granted skill
Gloves myth Eastern Gloves from the Eastern set, +4 Trozan
Belt myth Phantom-Thread girdle +1 arcanist, OA
Pants myth Eastern Legguards from the Eastern set, shattered star, frozen core, physical resist
Boots myth Golemborn Greaves pierce and physical resist
Weapon myth Trozan Starkeeper +2 trozan, CDR, OA, skill modifiers to trozan

Off-hand Rolderathis tome, the only required monster infrequent. Dropped by Rolderathis, boss in the Sunken Reliquary side area in Flooded passage, act 1. No specific rolls on it are necessary, only its basic stats, though any affix that makes sense is a boon. Used for reduced recharge to trozan and +trozan +hagarrad points.

Rings Allagast’s Stormgem is there for shattered star, also have OA and resist
Necklace myth Starfury Emerald cooldown reduction for rune of Hagarrad, skill modifiers to Trozan and Hagarrad
Medal myth Mark of Divinity popular oh shit proc useful for crucible, big hp
Relic Ignaffar's Combustion Other options like Eternity or Iskandra's balance will work

Necklace, weapon and off-hand are 3 items that make the build really strong.


What to use when you don’t have mythicals etc

Any items that add points to main skills or other relevant skills, + trozan, + hagarrad, but + artifact handling or star pact might not be bad to have too. Also items that give +1 to individual mastery, arcanist or inquisitor.

Beyond that the build needs what everyone else needs too, hp, resistances offensive and defensive ability, and its main damage boosts (cold, lightning, elemental, frostburn and electrocute). If you feel like glass and have difficulties surviving against trash mobs always chose defensive stats over offensive and skills. Always try to max your resist in elite and ultimate. Components and armor augments available from factions help to fill holes in them so always use them too once they become available.

New affixes like of scorched runes and runecarved on common items are awesome, then there is of Menhir’s wall, of kings, of nature’s bounty, of vitality, of potency, of attack, of protection, of readiness etc etc.

If an item has some hp along with resistances and/or OA or DA it is good. If it has +skills and damage it is also good. Some balance between these is needed to not be all attack glass cannon or some sort of useless damage sponge. If item has both hp/resist and skills/damage it is awesome.

No legendary item in the optimized setup is required for the build to function. Tome of Rolderathis isn’t either, but it is easy to get and works with any affix combination. Though its best to look for one with higher cooldown reduction (18%).
Best source of Moosilauke's shoulders is crucible, finding him in campaign is a little tedious, fight is long and he can spawn in SoT which requires a key. This is not a necessary piece and can be replaced with anything at hand until a suitable one can be found.




Devotion roadmap and explanation

Put 1 pt in chaos (red) crossroads
Take Viper
1 pt in eldritch (green) crossroads
Take Scholar’s light, remove eldritch crossroads
Take Eel
Put 3 pt in Behemoth to get flat hp and skill nodes
1 pt in ascendant (purple) crossroads
Take Empty throne, remove ascendant crossroads
Take Chariot of the dead
Take Rhowan’s Crown
Take Murmur, remove Scholar’s light
Take Lizard, take Solemn Watcher, remove Lizard
Take Amatok
Take Hawk
Take Ultos
Put remaining point in order crossroads (yellow) for hp or wherever you want

Behemoth and Chariot have two healing procs that help with sustain as this build has no life steal. Chariot base stats are mainly about OA boost.
Rhowan’s Crown and Murmur contain two resist reduction procs, these are critical since the build has no mastery skills for this.
Solemn watcher is a huge DA boost and some pierce resistance.
Amatok is mainly about damage with some DA and hp, proc is also damage and not too bad at that.
Ultos has damage and resist reduction.


How to level this

Start as inquisitor with 1 pt in storm box, then either respec it to use fireblast/greater fireblast from flintcore bolts in normal/veteran, or leave as is and keep putting points in it to get rid of it later. Add rune of Hagarrad, then go to arcanist mastery and get Trozan, 1 pt in frozen core, 1 pt in mirror and few pt in Maivens, 1-3 pt in passives. After that its best to make haste to star pact and advance the mastery bar to get it before level 60. Switch to using Trozan and Hagarrad when both main skills are maxed. RoH will actually be useful all the way but trozan taken later will need a few points before it can work. Next slowly make your way to artifact handling.

Kymon’s Chosen, Death Vigil and Barrowholm

The choice of factions is not important, both KC and DV have some relevant items but none mandatory. DV is a little more relevant and they are cold resistant which is annoying if you choose to fight them. Barrowholm is the same – feel free to attack them if you don’t like them. Its better to not attack the Outcast though.



A few notes on Crucible



The build is capable of soloing gladiator without record breaking timers though maybe that can be improved – I know I’m not the best crucible player.

Biggest bane is Iron Maiden – one can be dealt with, but two of them or Maiden + Fabius is rough. The build has low physical resistance which is certainly accountable for this. Mirror – Aether cluster – Mirror works as a solution, praying she’s dead or close to death after that.

Mobs with high cold resistance like Moosilauke and cold yeti heroes take more time to kill because of limited resist reduction. According to grimtools Moose and Fabius have 94% cold res, Zantarin - 68%. Yeti heroes by the name Icesnap and Bonechill have 93% cold and lightning, they can spawn in wave 148.

Empyrion's guidance with defense banner boosts hp to as much as 20K, Ulzuin reduces recharge times further improving dps.
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:46 PM
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How are the frostburn ticks on this one?
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Old 12-01-2017, 04:54 PM
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That starfury amulet is fun on paper but I think this build would really benefit from a +1 skills amulet and offhand since you're so starved for points you can't even max the supports in your main attacks which are really strong.

The TSS & RoH combo seems fun though, with a decent amount of % CDR and Eternity I bet you could just keep them coming with almost no delay.
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:26 PM
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How are the frostburn ticks on this one?
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That starfury amulet is fun on paper but I think this build would really benefit from a +1 skills amulet and offhand since you're so starved for points you can't even max the supports in your main attacks which are really strong.
I've tried beronath and its not as good. Somehow 12/12 frozen core did not improve the DOT damage at all when using beronath instead of starfury.
And it removes the CDR from RoH as well. Its not displayed in the grimtools but its there.



Eternity is interesting but I don't have a legit print and its one more rune and trozan every 4,5 sec, rather than almost no delay.


I've been away from the game for some time now but last thing I did to this build was replacing chest, hat and shoulders, like this: http://www.grimtools.com/calc/JVlM0WjZ

It adds just some points to skills and some extra resilence too.

Maybe I'll try to make more videos for this one but I hate recording crucible, the most spectacular waves also have the most lag.
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Old 12-02-2017, 03:54 PM
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While I was fiddling with DOT I've seen combination of peerless eye and tome of the arcane wastes improves it to 120K. If I give up most CDR, star pact for aura of censure, overlevel DOT supports and add just one more source of frostburn damage (mark of dark dreams) it improves to 180K. http://www.grimtools.com/calc/pZrlLrO2

It doesn't seem very fruitful thus far, thats not 300K and the direct damage setup I used is very potent to give it up for this, or maybe I'm out of ideas.
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How much flat crit does TSS do? I have Allagast setup 22/12 shattered star and 26/16 TSS yet max i've seen was 250k in crucible
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22/12 shattered star is too OP for me, I have 12/12 and its something like 190K
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Old 12-03-2017, 06:27 AM
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Is there a better version of this Mage Hunter build because looking at the skill points allocation I don't feel comfortable with it. Seems many important skills/supports are not at a good level..
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22/12 shattered star is too OP for me, I have 12/12 and its something like 190K
Yeah but you likely have better dots
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22/12 shattered star is too OP for me, I have 12/12 and its something like 190K
Shattered star give increasing returns, so you should consider maxing it :roll:
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