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Old 12-28-2016, 12:25 PM
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Based on a theory I'm working on, can you try getting either 140% or 177% attack speed? I think those two speeds would work with ABB better, assuming you're keeping your 26% cooldown reduction. Here is the equation I used:

S = floor(100/(1.8*(1-C)/H)/2-10) [%]

where:
S = attack speed
C = cooldown reduction
H = how many hits to proc ABB. In this case it can be 4 or 5
I could help you in the testing part but i need better rolls on AS on my items. And 177% AS is kinda hard since ranged speed penalty is high and one of the classes is arcanist so stacking AS is kinda hard. I'll let you know if i can get the extra 2% AS
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:08 PM
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I'm honestly shocked that you made this work, every time I try to make a Blade Burst build I fail miserably. I guess being ranged makes all the difference?
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:18 PM
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Really well done Cthon Like the devotion setup a lot, I use the same on my cold witch hunter

How long did it take you to get those fucking pistols xD
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:04 PM
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How would you suggest leveling this? Just as a pure arcanist? Or is there a way to level a dual pistol cold Spellbreaker?
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Old 12-29-2016, 02:39 AM
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Really well done Cthon Like the devotion setup a lot, I use the same on my cold witch hunter

How long did it take you to get those fucking pistols xD
Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread but this seems very interesting... Any chance of a guide or some more info on your WH?
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Old 12-29-2016, 07:31 PM
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Really well done Cthon Like the devotion setup a lot, I use the same on my cold witch hunter

How long did it take you to get those fucking pistols xD
Lol thanks mate.

I honestly didn't know these rolls even exist and was running around with DW Marauder's Cold pistols. I guess you could say they were a blessing from Chthon
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Old 12-29-2016, 07:34 PM
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How would you suggest leveling this? Just as a pure arcanist? Or is there a way to level a dual pistol cold Spellbreaker?
I'd suggest running PRM till 50. Then go 2h ranged with Silverbolt and ABB and farm the shit out of BoC and then switch at 75. Sorry for the half-ass answer but i have played this game so much that i have no shortage of levelling gear, which is why i never add levelling guides in any build
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Old 12-31-2016, 08:26 AM
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I'm honestly shocked that you made this work, every time I try to make a Blade Burst build I fail miserably. I guess being ranged makes all the difference?
I am not familiar with Melee ABB. But i think something similar can be pulled off with a melee build i am sure of this cause i killed the Iron Maiden in close quarters as one simply doesn't kite the Maiden.
So Melee Pure Cold ABB is viable. I can make one, i don't think i have the MIs to support it though.
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Old 12-31-2016, 09:57 AM
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I am not familiar with Melee ABB. But i think something similar can be pulled off with a melee build i am sure of this cause i killed the Iron Maiden in close quarters as one simply doesn't kite the Maiden.
So Melee Pure Cold ABB is viable. I can make one, i don't think i have the MIs to support it though.
You're talking about Loxmere daggers? Shard of Asterkarn would be a good substitute in the meantime. It's not really optimised for ABB though.

I think melee ABB would work just fine, especially as a 1H + Focus build. In fact I think it could be even stronger than your DW pistol build because you can use Ring of Frost and SS in cycles.

Suppose you got 50% CDR. According to my equation, the only optimal attack speed would be 156%, which would trigger ABB every 3 hits. Ring of Frost has slightly less than twice the cooldown of ABB and SS can have exactly twice the cooldown thru 1 point in NJE. So you can do the following cycle:

ABB
RoF
Normal attack
ABB
SS
Normal attack

The only trouble is Shard of Asterkarn doesn't have any attack speed, so you might need to farm Loxmere daggers afterall. Also, Ring of Frost is based on cast speed, so you'll also need to get around 156% cast speed as well (I think, I don't know how fast the animation is).
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Old 12-31-2016, 10:05 AM
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You're talking about Loxmere daggers? Shard of Asterkarn would be a good substitute in the meantime. It's not really optimised for ABB though.

I think melee ABB would work just fine, especially as a 1H + Focus build. In fact I think it could be even stronger than your DW pistol build because you can use Ring of Frost and SS in cycles.

Suppose you got 50% CDR. According to my equation, the only optimal attack speed would be 156%, which would trigger ABB every 3 hits. Ring of Frost has slightly less than twice the cooldown of ABB and SS can have exactly twice the cooldown thru 1 point in NJE. So you can do the following cycle:

ABB
RoF
Normal attack
ABB
SS
Normal attack

The only trouble is Shard of Asterkarn doesn't have any attack speed, so you might need to farm Loxmere daggers afterall. Also, Ring of Frost is based on cast speed, so you'll also need to get around 156% cast speed as well (I think, I don't know how fast the animation is).
-Well of course melee would be better than ranged. The AS penalties are lower. Using Daggers allows me to capitalize on the AS bonuses even more.

-I never considered Shard of Asterkarn a good cold dagger so i do need Lox's daggers. He did drop daggers of Voracity a while back but i think i threw them away when i realized "of Shattering" would be much better.

-As for focusing on CDR, i considered it when making this build but the sources are spread too much to consider stacking it. Which is why CDR was never my focus.
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