form of kickstart by POE

[GhostPain]

This may be of interest to the developers as they prepare to do a kickstart. Path of Exile, which is going to be a free to play game, that is in closed beta, has just started selling packages through there online store. Some fo the packages are really ways for supporters to donate to the game, while recieving some cool incentives. Packages range from about $10 up to $1,000.

Maybe this will give you some ideas.

[medierra]

I just saw that myself. I think we want to start off doing a Kickstarter project because it has the added benefit of helping to spread awareness of Grim Dawn to new people. Later on maybe we will think about adding some higher-tier options on the website if people are interested in that.

[GhostPain]

The latest I have heard is that there have been 5-6 Diamond package purchasers, thats the $1,000 level, there have also been a number of the gold $500 level, and many bronze and silver level purchasers.

[i.n.s.a.n.e]

1000$ for a game?

...game that is even that great? Huh, crazy. I guess some people have money just to throw away....

*opening pocket to catch some*

[Dobster]

I feel uneasy about the model they are using for that game, so much so that I haven't invested any money in it yet.

Being a F2P game I can't see how it will survive without eventually becoming pay too win. The increased stash you can buy is already dubious and that's just the start. I would much rather they just let you buy the game and had a level playing field. It feels like the more cash you throw at it, the more shiny medals you will get. The 'Diamond Supporters' are already being treated like heroes with a forum tag, even if all they contributed to the game is massive load of cash. It will feel like the people who drive Ferraris in real life will also be driving Ferraris in the game, if you catch my drift . I hope you guys don't give a shiny forum tag based on how much cash you can afford to pay, these should be kept for the real contributors like eisprinzessin.

The way you guys have done it is better, which is why I bought a Legendary game very early on.

[Opal Monkey]

I agree, Dobster. Seeing that extra stash tabs are purchasable was... I'm not sure what it made me feel. Mixed feelings, I suppose. That said, I'm glad to see they aren't completely unreasonable: $3 per tab.

I wonder how many free character slots will be given at launch? That'd be really annoying if it was too low. Or if it's low, hopefully they're cheap.

They keep saying they are firmly against pay too win. If they waver from that, they'll never get a cent out of me, for anything. Hopefully they'll really flesh out the idea of things like purchasable (visual) spell effects and such so it becomes a solid source of income.

A little more on topic though: Everything they offered for purchase looks fairly well designed. The kiwi bird pets in-game art is nice. They're glowy! It almost made me want one when I saw the first one while I was playing last night. Then, after standing around doing things in town for a couple of minutes with two kiwi birds there... the idle sounds of them started to piss me off. I'd be turning it off after an hour or two, even if I had one!

Besides, I have to save my money for Grim Dawn's kickstarter

[durruti]

WHO IS LUCIOUS ALDIN; GODDMANIT?!?!ß1ß1 AND WHATS HIS BUSIENSS?!?1?!1ß!

sorry for the outburst, i really need to know...

edit: oh god, i just landed on a site with quest descriptions for this hellgate npc, it's hilarious.
"You've been injected with words...from my mouth." and
"It's been wonderful speaking at your face in the hopes you comprehend."
the psychonanalytic quest is too much
"To help you, I'll remain behind and continually kick 314 in the specials like we discussed..."

[Opal Monkey]

Originally Posted by durruti

WHO IS LUCIOUS ALDIN; GODDMANIT?!?!ß1ß1 AND WHATS HIS BUSIENSS?!?1?!1ß!

sorry for the outburst, i really need to know...

edit: oh god, i just landed on a site with quest descriptions for this hellgate npc, it's hilarious.
"You've been injected with words...from my mouth." and
"It's been wonderful speaking at your face in the hopes you comprehend."
the psychonanalytic quest is too much
"To help you, I'll remain behind and continually kick 314 in the specials like we discussed..."

AAAAAAAAAARGH! ... Well, you beat me to it

Yeah, that was my favorite part of HG:L, by far. Some of those NPC's were seriously crazy. And not in the tame way a lot of games do crazy people. Good times, good times.

PS: Another good quote.

Calm down. Of course there's protective magic, 314.
I worked hard weaving the Dark Arts to minimize any potential mess.
Just like I said, my spells will keep the inevitable rupture contained within a small sphere that encases your skull so we won't get splashed by stray brain matter.

Guess that's enough derailing of this thread. Back to the topic at hand

[matthewfarmery]

I looked at the rewards, can't really say Im impressed, I do agree with Dobster's comments, I feel the model seems fishy to me, I do have issues with the current game, its short, and the boredom does get to you after a while. I think it will have trouble surviving to be honest. but I think their highest tier thing is a bit silly, treating people as if they have very fast cars and like its bragging rights. personally I don;t think there is enough game there for that model, if they waited to get the third act in, and maybe balance the game out a bit, add the next playable class. then see, but right now I just don't think there is enough game there to warrant it

[zidders]

Originally Posted by Dobster

The 'Diamond Supporters' are already being treated like heroes with a forum tag, even if all they contributed to the game is massive load of cash. It will feel like the people who drive Ferraris in real life will also be driving Ferraris in the game, if you catch my drift . I hope you guys don't give a shiny forum tag based on how much cash you can afford to pay, these should be kept for the real contributors like eisprinzessin.

Class warfare in video games? Really?

Look, all it is is a forum tag, and some extra bank space. While I agree that generally, getting the full game for a fixed amount is usually a far better way of doing things, I can see what GGG is trying to do. Some of your concerns are very valid. However, I wouldn't say that having a fancy tag on a forum or owning a Ferrari irl doesn't necessarily mean you think you're better than others. Some people just enjoy spending their hard earned cash supporting things they beieve in, and some people just really like well made vehicles. I think you're putting the cart before the horse. The game isn't even out yet, it's a bit too early to tell wether or not what effect their way of doing things will really have.