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hitman47 11-07-2017 01:59 AM

Cool build bro, going to give it a try !
Hope I can tank stuff from the incoming Crucible arenas and new roguelike dungeon :D

sephelutis 11-07-2017 05:19 AM

For all my love with retaliation, how are you dealing with ranged mobs? There are quite a few of these in expansion including the nemesis Alexander.

I imagine you'd also have trouble with crucible? Alot of mobs just goes outright retard mode and never do anything.

Autentist 11-07-2017 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sephelutis (Post 569226)
For all my love with retaliation, how are you dealing with ranged mobs? There are quite a few of these in expansion including the nemesis Alexander.

I imagine you'd also have trouble with crucible? Alot of mobs just goes outright retard mode and never do anything.

You either edit game files to make RET more like a reflect, so ranged mobs damage themselves all the time or (like I'm doing right now thanks to Halbu) tinker with the build to make it more of a Hybrid Retaliator, which can deal with both ranged and casters - specifically for the purpose of finishing Valbury, for example.
What I'm trying to create right now is Auramancer Retaliator.

As for Crucible, I will never ever install it. I despise it and it's mechanic. Sorry.

mirolino 11-08-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Autentist (Post 569135)
Struggling with toothache, not for long I hope.

Yeah, this is the same reasoning for me. It's the closest class to paladin in GD universe, that's why I love it so much.

It 100% can. The problem with Lokarr, though, that he is more of a caster, even if he has some melee attacks. With a little tweaking I'm currently doing, I hope to beat him much faster, while facetanking everything.

Hey fellow Paladin Autentist, got better from toothache?

so nice to know someone enjoy paladin this much.

I finally managed to kill lokarr after some struggling and build changing, i dont used 100 % your build (cause i dont have all the items).

but i used your devotion idea and worked really good, Shieldmaiden + Obelisk of menhir + Targo + Maxed Inquisitor Seal provides a really good damage mitigation.

The Sustain from skills like Inquisitor Seal healing + Overguard (sustain + mitigation) + Menhir Bulwark + Menhir willl (hard reset and healing over time), without forgetting about the devotions, Tree of life (big regen with good uptime) + dryad (flat heal).

Just the barebone of your build really helped, even without the full set, in my opinion someone can use your skills choices (tweaking according to the set, main damage skill) but the defensive setup from skills + devotion can be used in many builds (ofc in my opinion, didnt tested alot).

thank you Autentist, i managed to facetanking Lokarr with no so great items 80~95% of the time (ofc with skills rotation and paying attention).

Autentist 11-08-2017 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mirolino (Post 570149)
Hey fellow Paladin Autentist, got better from toothache?

I finally managed to kill lokarr after some struggling and build changing, i dont used 100 % your build (cause i dont have all the items).

thank you Autentist, i managed to facetanking Lokarr with no so great items 80~95% of the time (ofc with skills rotation and paying attention).

Yeah, I had to remove a tooth, but now it doesn't hurt anymore at least.

This is great, congratulations!

You are very welcome. I'm still working on at least two build variations so I can kill some of this specific stuff faster, so look froward to it.

Bork Laser 11-13-2017 10:41 PM

Hi Autentist. I'm fairly new to the game and I liked your tanky Immortal Retaliator build; however, I don't really know how to level my toon up. You know, stat order and which attribuites to level 1st on the soldier tree, for example. Can you give me a hand? What would you suggest? Thank you!

Autentist 11-14-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bork Laser (Post 573207)
Hi Autentist. I'm fairly new to the game and I liked your tanky Immortal Retaliator build; however, I don't really know how to level my toon up. You know, stat order and which attribuites to level 1st on the soldier tree, for example. Can you give me a hand? What would you suggest? Thank you!

Just pump everything in Physique with 6-10 points into Spitit. That's it.
Leveling up is pretty easy. Since you can get green faction retaliation gear starting from level 35, you simply use either FW or WoP to level yourself up. Once you hit level 35, check out Devil's Crossing and Homestead vendors for their gear.

Defensive skills get priority, so you should take Overguard, Shield Training as soon as they are available. Then works towards Counterstrike to increase your RET damage.

Autentist 11-15-2017 10:58 AM

Testing new Auramancer Retaliator.

Kupacabra - 8 minutes instead of 12.
Reaper of the Lost - 15-20 seconds, much faster, much more dangerous, probably will tinker with the build a bit more to ensure absolute tankiness.

The fucking bug with Reign of Ice and Fire is annoying as hell.

Autentist 11-24-2017 11:07 AM

http://www.grimtools.com/calc/62azmpXV

The initial loadout of the Hybrid Aura Retaliator.

I'm still testing some things, but this will soon be ready, along with complete leveling guide, as I promised.

Also, some definitive changes in Pure Retaliator build after Doom changes.

lawbster32 11-25-2017 10:27 AM

What drops bladed plating? atm im just missing blade plating, ravagers eye, and my jewelry/relic are regular legendary but all buffed up in combat im closing in on 3300 DA w this build.. things seem to have trouble hitting me. w that said it seems like nothing can dent my hp tho.


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