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  • Put save game file in one location!

    Article from RPS that I totally agree with!

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012...-in-one-place/

    Originally posted by RPS
    STOP IT: Put Save Games In ONE Place

    By John Walker on January 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 am.

    I’ve mentioned this flippantly before, in The Rules, but really I’m beyond exasperated now. I demand – DEMAND I say – a single location for savegames to be agreed upon by all who make games, with a punishment of grisly, brutal death for any who fails to follow it. Below I’ve listed the locations for savegames for a bunch of the games I currently have installed.

    I’m reminded of my rage this morning, as I settle down for a morning with the new Saints Row: The Third DLC. It turns out it doesn’t work with the press build of the original game I previously had, so I’ve had to install the release version. That means transferring my saves over. So where are they? After an appeal on Twitter I learn that they’re in:

    C:\Steam\userdata\[my ID]\55230\remote

    Oh, of course. 55230. Why didn’t that just immediately spring to my mind? But some may argue this is a failing of Steam, and not fair to blame on THQ/Volition. Well, let’s take a look at where we can find some other saves.

    How about RPG classic, Dragon Age? Are they stored with the game? No no no, of course not. They’re in My Documents! Hidden inside the Characters folder.

    C:\Users\John\Documents\BioWare\Dragon Age\Characters\Simon

    Hmmm, I want access to my Trials 2 details. So are they in My Documents? No, they’re elsewhere. They’re here:

    C:\Users\John\AppData\Local\Redlynx\Trials 2 SE\2.0\scores

    It’s important to note that AppData (or Application Data pre Win 7) is a hidden folder. Using Windows without knowing your way around it, you’re not even going to see that the folder is on your hard drive, let alone think to look in there. Let alone know the difference between “Local”, LocalLow” and “Roaming”. Deliberately set to scare you away, Windows doesn’t like ordinary people fiddling in there. So that’s where most save games go?

    So I’ll look there for Minecraft saves too, as I want them on my netbook. But they’re not in MyDocs nor \Local\! They’re here:

    C:\Users\John\AppData\Roaming\.minecraft\saves

    In what appears to be the most deliberately hidden folder, ever.

    Right, so Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood. Any of those three? Nope.

    C:\Users\John\Saved Games\Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood\SAVES

    This one, despite being in the hidden “Users” folder, actually makes a modicum of sense. Sure, it’s a game on Steam, and not being stored in Steam’s numerical system for some reason. But it’s actually in a folder called “Saved Games”! Along with Minesweeper, and nothing else. It’s also somewhat confused by having this location too:

    C:\Users\All Users\Ubisoft\Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood

    Which is completely empty.

    And kudos to indie game Bust N Rush, for managing to be the only game I’ve ever seen in \LocalLow, with this catch location:

    C:\Users\John\AppData\LocalLow\Techtonic Games Inc\BustNRush\SAVEDATA\13

    Another Steam game, Skyrim, opts for somewhere else too. Back in My Documents now, but in a folder especially for “My Games”. Makes sense too, if it weren’t the only game in there.

    C:\Users\John\Documents\My Games\Skyrim\Saves

    It’s quite near to Cthulhu Saves The World’s saves, which have their own unique space in a dedicated folder for game saves, here:

    C:\Users\John\Documents\SavedGames\CSTW\Cthulhu Saves the World\AllPlayers

    In short, what I’m saying is: STOP IT! Just
    Which begs the question...where will Grim Dawn's save games be located?

    (I'm guessing the same place where TQ saves were, but still lol)
    Last edited by Renevent; 01-23-2012, 01:36 PM.
    "I've always felt that a person's intelligence is directly reflected by the number of conflicting points of view he can entertain simultaneously on the same topic."

  • #2
    Totally!

    Hate that crap, all game saves should be in....my games folder. That's why it's there.

    I'd imagine GD will use the same folder as TQIT did seeing as it uses the same engine.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ASYLUM101 View Post
      I'd imagine GD will use the same folder as TQIT did seeing as it uses the same engine.
      Well, lets hope the guys at Crate are smart enough to find the piece of code to change the name of the folder to Grim Dawn. I would hate to have all my GD saves in my "Titan Quest - Immortal Throne" folder.



      (Watch out for all the posts from people that did not get the expansion, asking if their save games can still work if they only have vanilla TQ )
      Last edited by jiaco; Tomorrow at 11:34 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ASYLUM101 View Post
        Hate that crap, all game saves should be in....my games folder. That's why it's there.
        yeah! +1 to that! at least you do not have to back up different folders, just one folder containing everything!

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        • #5
          That save game crap has annoyed me for so long now.

          Every time I decide it's time to do a complete system rebuild I have to spend literally HOURS combing through every drive and system folder to try and find where each and every tard-developer decided to save their game files...just so I can keep ahold of them. The fact that we all have super-massive HD capacities these days is NO excuse for not having a logically organized and centralized storage location for game files.

          But you want to know what? I DON'T want files saved to My Documents or my user profile folder. These files and locations default to the same drive as the operating system, arguably the single weakest link in ANY computer (and quite often the drive that needs to be completely wiped the most frequently). If I install a game to a harddrive that's NOT the OS drive, chances are, that's where I want ALL of that game's data files INCLUDING saved games. OR...you could just ASK the user where they'd LIKE the game files to be saved! I KNOW, novel concept!!

          And that brings me to ANOTHER bit that's been annoying me. Why aren't game installs portable? What is being entered into the registery that is SO damned important that a game will not run without it? And if it's SO important why isn't there a registry repair tool with the game so if you have to move the folder around (swap it to another drive/computer) it can do so seamlessly? Why is it basically a requirement that every single piece of software must be completely reinstalled every single time?? What the ****...

          In an age of computers as advanced as they are now, why the HELL are we still in the technological-stoneage with software?? Look at hardware these days...Any piece, any manufacturer, completely interchangeable, many of them WHILE the system is still running.
          Last edited by LostSoul; 01-23-2012, 04:49 PM.

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          • #6
            \Documents\My Games\Grim Dawn\SaveData


            Another Steam game, Skyrim, opts for somewhere else too. Back in My Documents now, but in a folder especially for “My Games”. Makes sense too, if it weren’t the only game in there.
            I guess he hasn't played Dungeon Siege III, Path of Exile beta, Civilization 5, or Titan Quest, as those games all seem to default to "Documents\My Games"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LostSoul View Post
              In an age of computers as advanced as they are now, why the HELL are we still in the technological-stoneage with software?? Look at hardware these days...Any piece, any manufacturer, completely interchangeable, many of them WHILE the system is still running.
              I thought that maybe once we entered the 21st century, printers would work more then 50% of the time and windows would no longer end up getting stuck off-screen or underneath the task-bar but no luck. Still no fucking flying cars or moon colony either... so far the 2000's are a big disappointment.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by medierra View Post
                I thought that maybe once we entered the 21st century, printers would work more then 50% of the time and windows would no longer end up getting stuck off-screen or underneath the task-bar but no luck. Still no fucking flying cars or moon colony either... so far the 2000's are a big disappointment.
                then you missed this and a few similar vids

                real flying car
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7f1feSjDks

                see there are flying cars, but yes still no moon colony, and I don't think that will happen for a long time yet, but in general, I do agree with your statement
                Legendary key holder since 20/12/2010

                Co-op Digital Deluxe Bundle supporter I hope GD is a success

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                • #9
                  Cool balloon lol...need to get one just to freak out the neighbors!
                  "I've always felt that a person's intelligence is directly reflected by the number of conflicting points of view he can entertain simultaneously on the same topic."

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                  • #10
                    Yeah I've noticed a lot of games have used "Documents\My Games" for their save location, but I agree there should be standards in the industry like this, if not at least give people the chance to decide where all their save files will go.
                    Legendary Key holder since May, 2011.

                    Grim Dawn... sounds like an evil dish soap.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by medierra View Post
                      \Documents\My Games\Grim Dawn\SaveData
                      Will the save games be fragmented in thousands of little files like in TQ?
                      I hated to back up the saves as the backup process would take ages when there are thousands of files for just a few characters saved.
                      I see no need to not have 3-4 bigger save files per character.

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                      • #12
                        Love that rant, I've been feeling this way for years and years now. It gets ridiculous trying to hunt down save game folders. The "My Games" folder should be the industry standard.
                        Legendary Fan turned Digital Deluxe Edition Backer
                        Unabashed CDProjektRED fan


                        Currently Playing: Bayonetta

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                        • #13
                          There is a folder called Saved games under user: something similar to C:\Users\USERNAME\Saved Games... Why not using it? I find is smarter than Documents\My Games\whatever...
                          The only game that i found using it is Steel Storm Burning Retribution.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Donbabbeo View Post
                            There is a folder called Saved games under user: something similar to C:\Users\USERNAME\Saved Games... Why not using it? I find is smarter than Documents\My Games\whatever...
                            The only game that i found using it is Steel Storm Burning Retribution.
                            Because windows xp doesnt have it. So it cant be "standard" and only few(see: steel storm) will use it.
                            the censorship is killing the forums its just like 1984 (╥_╥)

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                            • #15
                              For me every game should save in it's own folder. This way no need to search the saves when you want to put it on USB stick, and no compatibility issues (think twice when your game works under windows and linux...)

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