LOL@BP>Fail

[VeggieBoy]

Yay, they're killing our eco system and have continuously failed to do anything about it. :eek:

[ASYLUM101]

The gulf already had a dying ecosystem, we had scientists out there trying to help revive it and prevent something like this from happening. But, there's little you can do when a thousand year old coral reef starts dying, which it has been dying for a while. Fishers and other idiots kill the coral reefs all the time and no one really does anything to prevent them. The oil catastrophe is no different, no matter how many people whine, they just do not give a damn.

[Malpheas]

Actually, one system could die and the rest would live - ie. humans. Your nihilistic tax dollars at work!

[VeggieBoy]

The gulf already had a dying ecosystem, we had scientists out there trying to help revive it and prevent something like this from happening. But, there's little you can do when a thousand year old coral reef starts dying, which it has been dying for a while. Fishers and other idiots kill the coral reefs all the time and no one really does anything to prevent them. The oil catastrophe is no different, no matter how many people whine, they just do not give a damn.

Yeah... it was "dying", but nowhere near this rate (the rate that this much toxicity being exposed to it). And look at what its going to do the coast and its already killing the marshes. Marshes are extremely fragile ecosystems... and it can/could take upwards of a decade or two to recover.

[jiaco]

If only they would just start now and construct the land bridge between Naples, FL and Cancun, Mexico. They could drain the gulf and just rape it raw for oil, build a huge set of resorts for spring break on the new ocean front property and save the everglades and other cools spots like Key West and the Bahamas.

Its always half-empty to them damn Americans. This is the opportunity of a lifetime, good bye recession, see ya later electric cars. But no, they want to fix a gaping hole spewing oil 5000 ft underwater. Whatever, let me know how that turns out for y'all.

[Malpheas]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be American property only. Perhaps bureaucracy prevents, no idea. As well, isn't BP a United Kingdom company? Or at least started out as one...

As well, what else does it affect?

[VeggieBoy]

B[RITISH] PETROLEUM. Yes, BP is a UK company. Its Headquarters are in London.

http://www.heatingoil.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/bp-oil-leak-close-up.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2010/05/28/alg_oil-spill.jpg
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/5/10/1273515125419/bird-at-deepwater-horizon-006.jpg
http://www.3news.co.nz/Portals/0-Articles/159254/oilbird420.jpg?width=300

Have you seen their new ad campaign? Its a steaming pile of BULLSHIT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKcrDaiGE2s

They have a whole channel on YouTube, requesting your friendship. A lot of their videos have comments disabled, lol!

They're spending MILLIONS on this PR bull, when they should be spending that money, time, and effort on fixing their problem.

[Starkrun]

:furious: If the hop current pops and moves past the Keys then the oil will swill though the entire Atlantic Ocean, and should hit England and north Africa by this winter...

Take a look see and get a little more pissed off... (http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jun2010/2010-06-03-02.html) BTW yes it obliterated the east coast of USA... :furious:

[jiaco]

Wow, scary. Alright forget draining the gulf. But they had better contain it. They have to. The volume of oil per day and the number of days already past, this is a HUGE quantity of oil. BP may be "responsible" for the start of this mess, but more than Obama and BP should consider it their responsibility to contain and then clean up this mess.

It sucks that we as a people (worldwide) could not survive if we staged a mass strike to not buy gas for X days, where X was a suitably long period of time where all oil companies would suffer financially.

It just plain sucks. Somehow, we (at least the vast majority of us) have built our entire life around the automobile.

[VeggieBoy]

Obama honestly shouldn't have to worry about this mess. Its really unfair. Our country has so many other problems going on right now that he needs to address... *sigh*

[yerkyerk]

You do know that LOL means Laugh Out Loud, don't you? You're laughing out loud because an oil company fails to contain an oil leak polluting a huge coastal area, doing catastrophical damage to both men and nature?

Also, if BP fails at fixing their damage for whatever reason, the government should step in and take action.. it's not their fault, but they are responsible to help out if a commercial company messes it up in their country, hurting their people.

[deimos]

I'm surprised a disaster of this scale didn't get massive involvement and co-operation from the US government, military and whatnot from the beginning. And i don't mean just helping with the cleanup or containment of the oil that's already out, i mean blocking the leak. Of course i don't know the technical limitations of an underwater operation but these guys are sure as hell taking their time?!

Though i love animal life and nature i wouldn't call myself a tree hugger but this just effin' sucks and pisses me off to see the damage :mad:

Man is the worst of all.

[VeggieBoy]

You do know that LOL means Laugh Out Loud, don't you? You're laughing out loud because an oil company fails to contain an oil leak polluting a huge coastal area, doing catastrophical damage to both men and nature?

Also, if BP fails at fixing their damage for whatever reason, the government should step in and take action.. it's not their fault, but they are responsible to help out if a commercial company messes it up in their country, hurting their people.

Yerk, me laughing at them was of a sarcastic, dark comedic nature. I'm not laughing at the fact that there is millions of gallons killing our ecosystem or that they're failing to do anything to stop it...directly. I'm laughing at the greedy nature that surrounds the offshore drilling and a lot of other things that surrounds it. Its things like this that make those 2012 crazy theorists almost seem sane.

Secondly, while the government should step in and take action they should be reimbursed fully for whatever efforts are taken. BP should be financially responsible FOR EVERYTHING.

Now excuse me, I'm going to play paintball and be blissfully unaware for a few hours while the world collapses around me.

[Starkrun]

Live feeds from Oil Spill... this is insane... doubel click to go full screen. (http://globalwarming.house.gov/spillcam)

[heron]

what's the current situation on this crisis? cannot believe it's taking them this long to fix.

[myrmidon]

my opinion is that the goverment deserves full responsibly on this. idk if its just me but i think we all do.

if you dont think the government doesn't need to step in then your practicly saying.Let the oil company fix it all with there slow selves its gonna flow all across the worlds 75% water and turn in to the worlds 75% oil and all the fish are going to die and then all the birds are going to die and then all waters gonna be gone and all of humanity gonna be gone. we need all the help we can get. this is number one attention.

[Blissful End]

This really is a huge ecological disaster.
Besides the gulf being completely polluted and dead of life, lets not even mention what will happen when the hurricane season strikes and all the oil from the gulf will be spread in-lands...
I have a hunch the world will be feeling the effects of this for many years to come.

[ASYLUM101]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill

So...yep, still leaking.

In an interview with The Associated Press, team member and Purdue University engineering professor Steve Wereley said it was a "reasonable conclusion" but not the team's final one to say that the daily flow rate is, in fact, somewhere between 798,000 gallons and 1.8 million gallons.

wait... .8 - 1.8 MILLION gallons, DAILY!? WHO THE HELL IS IN CHARGE WITH CAPPING THAT THING?! Seriously. This is getting to be way too much. We've already got enough oil in the ocean for this to cause our planet serious harm, why are we wasting so much time rather than actually fixing this?

[alexei]

Fallout 4 is coming.

[ASYLUM101]

Fallout 4 is coming.

lolol

wait.

this is serious! :P

[deimos]

Haha, and instead of becoming heroes in power armors, most of us will simply be ran over by tanks or nukes.

It IS serious. :mad:

[alexei]

What will happen if the oil spill burn? Will it burn in ocean water?

[myrmidon]

Yep. maybe its because to government doesn't really care because they suck.
I think they should fill up that hole first thing idk w/e they do to clog it up.weld a huge metal plate on it w/e. Just fill it then you can start worrying about your flimsy paper work and you cant clean if its still spiling can you?

but yes what would happen if you ignite the oil? oil does burn under water.
but would it burn all the oil cleaning the oil out?

[deimos]

I'm not an expert on any of this but something tells me you can't just burn off the leaked oil. And if you could, there would be severe side-effects from the burn waste.

Waiting to be corrected on this, but if it was possible i'm thinking it would have been mentioned somewhere?

[ASYLUM101]

It has been mentioned on several articles, BP is trying to devise a way to "burn" the oil, with some special flamethrower thing they made called an "Evergreen Burner", aka, a torch with a name to chill the hippies.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/09/bp-oil-spill-cap-plan-b-burn-baby-burn/

Obviously, not a good idea. Implications of this idea are beyond us, releasing who knows how many chemicals into the air, toxins, carbon, etc. This isn't refined oil, it's crude oil, making it that much more toxic. On top of that, what if something explodes? What about the sealife? The coral reef we have(had) struggling to live? Etc?

Still, it's easier than cleaning it up, AMIRITE BP, YOU STUPID LAZY BASTARDS!?

[Gem]

Can wrong with termins.
Oil in water, afaik - emulsion. it's almost impossible to exclude on of other. In house you can mix seed oil and water - many of small blobs. In laboratory possible with centrifuges, maybe some sorts of bacteriums.
In these scales - you can't rectificate whole ocean, you can't centrifuge it.
Only burning and eating(bacteriums. but maybe it is solving problem of starving africa:p).

crude oil can explode as machine oil - temperature more than 180-300 C and open air. Maybe need pressure(under water - hundreds atmosphers... hmm...but no air). So pray for no volcans near the spot.

Best regards from unemployed chemist :D

[deimos]

Right, as always none of my local newspapers or sites mention anything about burning...

And no, that doesn't sound like a good idea :mad:

[ASYLUM101]

Only burning and eating(bacteriums. but maybe it is solving problem of starving africa:p).

LOL


crude oil can explode as machine oil - temperature more than 180-300 C and open air. Maybe need pressure(under water - hundreds atmosphers... hmm...but no air). So pray for no volcans near the spot.

Best regards from unemployed chemist :D

I thought crude oil could explode too, but I'm no chemist. Seriously, I'm not looking forward to another Krakatoa or tsunami, so I hope there's no explosions or volcanoes.

[heron]

Dammit it has reached the shores in the gulf and some got in land, there's photos and videos of beach goers feet soaked in oil from walking on the sands...

Florida west coast will get hit very soon.
clear water is one of them. sigh.

http://www.floridafishinginfo.net/clearwater_florida_4.jpg

http://www.wfn.tv/photos/blog/wfn_news/729.fishery_closure_06_1_10.jpg

[alexei]

Those oil will hit the hotel revenue and tourism industry, hardly ;p

They better do something along the shore. Or did the oil also traverse underwater?

[ASYLUM101]

Those oil will hit the hotel revenue and tourism industry, hardly ;p

They better do something along the shore. Or did the oil also traverse underwater?

The oil is getting carried along by the current I believe.

[ASYLUM101]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx1tI&playnext_from=TL&videos=JcI32P1EiI4

Post this on your facebook,twitter, etc; this seems like the most reasonable response to eliminating the oil in the gulf right now. While BP still has to seal the oil pipeline, this solution will clean out all the oil from the gulf naturally and without any consequences.

[VeggieBoy]

Why elites don't use this cheap, efficient and ecological solution?
Maybe because they do want nature to be damaged, ressources to disappear and humans to suffer and eventually die...

I hate when people say crap like this. Its almost as annoying as the annoying spill itself.




Anyway, this guy has a point. It should be looked into.

[ASYLUM101]

I hate when people say crap like this. Its almost as annoying as the annoying spill itself.


It's not crap. BP hasn't done a damn thing about this problem but pour out more chemicals into our Gulf. Obviously that guy isn't very well spoken, but the thought is there. It's actually not just the humans that suffer. We probably suffer the least of all life on our planet really.

Ah well. Some people suggest emailing our governors, but I see little that can be done. The reality of the situation is : BP is too damn greedy to allow anyone near their oil rig. Sad how corporations have more power than governments it seems.

[VeggieBoy]

I wasn't talking about the actual video speaker, more or less the crazy theorist types commenting. I think that this idea is spectacular.

I'm sure BP is trying to do all that they can. But I'm still pissed at them (or someone, not sure whose fault this is...lol) for it happening.

I'm sure BP will look into this if/when they find out about it or maybe they're already researching it...hopefully.

[eisprinzessin]

BP Spills Coffee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AAa0gd7ClM)

[shawnmck]

Some of you are forgetting that President Obama has a large role in this spill as well. After all, every solution to the problem has to go to him to be either okayed or denied. BP is only doing what Obama is allowing them to do.

There have been plenty of aid offered from other Countries such as the Duch, British, Russian, and Arab countries that offer their help. One came within days of the spill that had tankers with the ability to suck up the polluted water & separate the water from the oil and contain the oil while releasing the cleansed water back into the ocean.
Obama refused all help.

So I personally think that some of the animosity & outrage needs to be directed towards president Obama.

[myrmidon]

aren't you glad you obama voters won this guy who doesent do anything...not like any previous presidents could do anything.

and that coffie spill thing probably exactly what happend.

[ASYLUM101]

aren't you glad you obama voters won this guy who doesent do anything...not like any previous presidents could do anything.

and that coffie spill thing probably exactly what happend.

It's not like the president is supreme here. He cannot just will the coast guards to show up and clean the mess, the stupid democracy system has to take it's effect, congress has to vote, decide, etc. It's retarded imo. Not only that, but like I said before, these oil corporations have more power than the governments themselves (because we need the oil).

I mean really, almost 2 months of this is enough. Something needs to be done already.

I heard nukes are good for cleaning up this mess...

[shawnmck]

I read somewhere that another solution was to release some sort of enzyme or bacteria into the polutted water that would feed off of the oil. It is supposedly a natural & environmentally friendly method.
It has been denied also.
It almost makes me think that some politicians (caugh Obama) want the spill to be so bad so as to push through legislature that he normaly wouldn't have been able to..?

In any event, this is a very sad tragedy that didn't need to happen. If they were allowed to drill closer to shore then divers would have been able to swim directly to the source of the leak & would have stood a much better chance. It is the fear of polution that force such companies as BP to drill in such deep waters that make it extremely difficult to fix such accidents when they do happen.

BTW
I also don't believe BP is directly responsible. They are guilty of negligence, but they did not want this to happen and its a bit naive to treat them as if they purposely set out for this to happen.
They are partially responsible, but then again, so is the US Govt for forcing them to drill so deep, and for not allowing other nations to help when they offered.

Such a waste.
But I do think that 5 years from now the water will be back to normal. Mother nature does have it's own ways of dealing with environmental problems. Such as bacteria that feeds off of crude oil. It's just really sad that so many fish & wildlife have to die for an easily avoidable & costly accident.

[ASYLUM101]

In 5 years the water *may* be fine. I dunno about that man. You do know off the coast of Louisiana, where the Mississipi dumps it's contents, the water is a complete dead zone. Devoid of all life, and any swimmers in that water risk cancer. That water should be easily treatable, it only has excess nitrogen in it, but the complete lack of life and lack of CARE for the crisis is what enables these kinds of things to continue occuring. There's many places like this, and in 5 years, yeah, the ocean will be fine, the oil *may* be eaten by the microbes (which btw I already posted about a page ago, you just ignored that post I guess) if someone will LET them into the water.

But still, no one is doing anything, so I don't see how anything will get done. I would do something if I could, but what can I do? Chop off my hair and throw it in the ocean? Might help, but I don't think it will be enough, and certainly not as good as the microbes. Even if the oil is cleaned up, we'll be left with a dead gulf with a bad reputation, rather than this amazing luxury gulf we used to have.

[alexei]

A very nice summary read.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/309451

[shawnmck]

^ I think the personal responses are more interesting than the story itself.
Here are but some that I copied & pasted..

"The truth of the matter is that the media is for some reason pro Obama and has made it so that BP can't even get a fair response. First of all The Oil rigs are a vary dangerous enviroment to work in. When a well comes in it spews oil and gas, if by some chance it ignites you have a whole new situation. when the fire begins it doesn't matter what the blow out preventor does the rig is now on fire and if the hydraulics cath fire you now have a new beast. keep in mind that the string of pipe is traveling thru the blow out preventor and the rig collaspes its taking the string with it and if the casing breaks below the preventor you now have another beast. When the horizon collasped it took the string of pipe with it and broke off below the preventor. It's vary disapointing and embarsening that the obama used this as polical clout to pass his energy bill and levrage to impose new tax thru the oil companiesbecause he a chicken @#$%. When this rig caught fire we should have ask how we can help not we're going to sue. By the way Tony you deserved a day off. Also I was a rig hand who lost five of my friends when are rig caught fire and burnt to the ground causing the pipe to break off below the blow out prevetor" -No1 trotter

"The second time President Zero went to the spill he stated he was in charge. Why then hasn't he set aside the Jones Act so that the 13 countries that offered to help could. The dutch have skimmer ships The Saudi's have oil and water seperators. But because he is so beholding to the Unions no one can help. Even the Coast Gaurd is hindering the clean up barges since they want to make sure there are enough fire extigushers and life jackets on board each barg but they don't know how to contact the owners. Hell get on the barg count the fire extingshers and life jackets and let them start work. Opps for got its Bushes fault" -Larry C

"No One in thier right mind could go YAUGHTING while thier company is continually causing this catastrophy. Problem is they can't stop the oil because they did not have the technology to drill this deep and THEY STILL DON"T. Relief wells will only help if they know how to do it. But they were told last September it would be 10 years until they could feasibly bring oil to the surface and yet they drilled anyway with no regard to safety. Anyone can see by TONY"S comments and his actions that he has no regard for the health and safety of AMERICANS or the GULF OF MEXICO. He could care less, I think he needs to go yaughting about 250 miles SE of Houston and stay there" -Kim

^Those are just some of the comments.