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Void(null)
04-20-2010, 03:31 PM
My friend and I have started corresponding by good old fashioned letter writing. He sent me this rather wonderful drunken mess all the way from France, part poetry, part philosophy part drunken slurring.

For reasons discussed in my own letter, I am writing everything out into a notepad document first, and I pasted it into this forum to self spell check via the Preview feature, before writing it out by hand to mail it.

I figured while it was up here, why not share my rant with all of you good people?

These are the thoughts of an immigrant of 11 years who is soon to voluntarily leave America and return home. Take my words for what you will, but this is the impression I shall be taking home with me.

Letter writing holds for me a certain fear, one which I have never been able to overcome. I struggled with dyslexia all my childhood and adult life. It was only with the advent of the computer and the internet, when pen and paper became a thing of the past could I finally begin to put my thoughts clearly into written word.

For someone who read Nietzsche and Plato as a child... to be treated as an idiot by educators all because I could not place my thoughts into the pen, and pen cleanly onto paper was the tragedy of my youth. It bred frustration, a contempt for the education system and wasted most of my years of education to the point that I simply stopped going to school and my grades suffered none for it.

The digital age for me has been a freeing. Were I to go to school in this day and age I doubt any would know of my dyslexia. Children have laptops, every home has a computer and a printer and from middle school onwards no child is expected to place pen to paper.

While I have gained so much, even I am not such a selfish beast that I cannot see the harm that has been done to our collective species. So much has been lost in the past decade by the death of the written word.

The English language has been replaced with its fast food equivalent, Facebook and Twitter the McDonald's of communication, fast and cheap yet unsatisfying and ultimately harmful.

I am sad to say that unlike you, I can not freely place expression and prose onto paper. The sheet of parchment is my prison cell, the pen my jailer. My words would become the same emotionless, meaningless drivel that you seek to combat in yourself and others. So I shall instead meet you halfway and allow this box of light and precious metals to transcribe for you my words as I dictate to it my thoughts. Yet I shall write to you in human hand, with all my human failing.


The weekend has passed, spent in a delirium of medication and nose blowing. All of Vermont is currently sick. There has been an outbreak of this mutated Rhinovirus stampeding its way through the populace. This is the first day in almost a week that I have been able to jump out of bed, instead of spending my first two hours of the morning willing my limbs to move through the burning of every joint and muscle, a pain akin to those suffering from Lyme's disease. My Wife has been sick also, I being the lucky first, got to demo this lovely new illness for them, so now I am looking after my family as they are going through the worst of it.

They have released Emergency medication into the populace, Prescription strength, prescription recipe medication for this illness that you can buy at a drugstore, you have to give them your Drivers license and Social Security number but rather that than the expense of a Doctors visit.

Yes that's right, America releases Emergency medication in remote areas for you to buy over the counter instead of letting you see a Doctor, this country's health-care systems is fucked beyond words. They wouldn't even have released the medication were it not for the consideration that if it spreads then tens of millions would miss work and that would have a negative effect on the economy.

I can not wait to be back in a Country that has some form of social responsibility to its people. The UK is a miserable place at times, but we are so lucky in so many regards.


So many days have passed, a week even. The entire family including myself have been ill and that completely threw me out of the routine I was developing for writing a little a each day. It also totally messed me up for finishing Roadside Picnic, I am on the last 25 pages and while the story has been amazing I now can't seem to find the time to sit down and finish it. I do this to myself far too often and need to become better at putting myself back on track once I have been derailed.

Life right now is good, everything is going according to plan, yet every day that passes I find something else amazingly ugly about America that makes me happy I am soon to leave.

Going to School in both England and Scotland gave me an interesting perspective on how History is taught. While we are taught the same content from the curriculum, the spin and eyes that its told from conform to the nationality of your teacher and so their experience filters and colors what you learn.

My wife had a similar experience, but instead of the filter of an individual, it was the filter of the government.

She was 8 years old, in History class and they were being taught about the Native Americas and my Wife's Family have a great amount of Native American blood in them. While not full blooded they are only 3 generations removed, so oral tradition has passed down knowledge and story's about their History. One would think that this would provide an interesting insight for the class, but that is simply not how things work in America. The Entirety of the America Education system is based upon half truths and lies, especially where history is concerned.

They painted a portrait of the Native Americans as brutal savages who were lucky that the white man came along and tamed them all. A far cry from the beautiful and noble portrait that my wife had been told from her Grandmother, of the balance in living with nature, of the founding of the first Democracy in the form of the 6 Nations.

When she questioned the History they were being taught in School, the Teacher screamed at her... called her a dissident and dragged her into the Principals Office. Her mother was called in, and a little 8 year old girl was interrogated and bullied into giving only the answers that her teacher wanted to hear. Repeating back the propaganda.

This is an ordeal that any intelligent American who questions the system at an early age must endure in some form. They are taught from a very early age not to question, not to think, pledge your life and soul to your country each morning and believe everything that you are told by the governmental system. Because it is safer not to question the propaganda.

This is such a beautiful country, with amazingly bright and brilliant people... but the Government forms the most oppressive and evil regimes that I have ever known. I need to get out of here, back to my Motherland, back to blighty. Our Government may be as useless as a wet fart, but at least the people are allowed to question, to think for themselves. They are made numb and given the option not to, but you do not have to worry about the Police breaking down your door for having an enlightened conversation.

Even writing this I feel a sense of trepidation, that sense of tension welling in the center of my chest that screams "Will they think you a Terrorist for writing this? Am I one letter away from being held in an Internment camp for questioning the system?" It sounds crazy, but I think it is a little seed of fear that anyone who has bothered to read the Patriot act carry's with them.

We are wired, we are monitored, we can not speak, we can not question. I can not tell where Fear ends and Freedom begins.

War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

If any country embodies Orwell's totalitarian regime, it is today's America.

The American Constitution is one of the greatest documents of social importance to this date. If any Country could abide by the American Constitution it would be a truly beautiful place. Sadly America has lost its way and these wounds go deep, right to the very heart of the Country. They shall heal slowly over time, but they shall scar and leave this once beautiful nation hideously disfigured.

Home... will be home soon. Surrounded by friends and family. Where the Government is useless and the biggest threat to our Society is the Chav. I am looking forward to experiencing Freedom once more.

Malpheas
04-20-2010, 05:03 PM
Void, man,

Meaningfully written. Personally, I think it's a shame that that was the lasting impression left with you is of isolative censorship.

Cheers regardless,

Malph

OneEyeRed
04-20-2010, 06:08 PM
That was deep. I wish you the best in your endeavors and as a staunch Libertarian, I won't begin to go on about how I feel towards my country today. If Obama gets his way with the UN it will get worse for us. Here is a President who told us he would protect our Second Amendment rights yet he is quietly discussing a global gun ban within the UN. Thanks President for nothing. Just one step further to the danger zone. Your so called health care system is a fucking joke as well.

A large percentage of Americans cannot even tell you what the Amendments or Declaration are. Hell, just as many don't even know who the hell their vice president is. Regardless of our current socialistic state, I would not want to be anywhere else. As you mentioned, freedom can certainly be slavery. The smoke and mirrors of our government have drained this nation to the point that people are finally starting to wake up albeit far too many years late.

We finally get a good movement with the Tea Party and then they bring on dipshits like Palin to speak for the movement. What a way to completely destroy and invalidate what good work was being accomplished. Bahh, I could go on and on about our system and the state of our country. Our great grandchildren's children will be paying off this debt Obama created. We are in the high 50's in terms of education on a global scale and last in mathematics. We are a breeding ground for the ignorant and the stupid who all want to be led by a leash.

We outlaw marijuana but allow people to drink and smoke and buy foods on grocery shelves with high fructose corn syrup and other lethal ingredients. Smoke and mirrors everywhere and too many fucking stupid people to wake up and figure it out.

Anyhow, damn, I didn't expect all that too come out. Sorry and I honestly didn't mean to steal your thunder. My best wishes to you and your family.

Void(null)
04-20-2010, 06:48 PM
Bahh, I could go on and on about our system and the state of our country. Our great grandchildren's children will be paying off this debt Obama created. We are in the high 50's in terms of education on a global scale and last in mathematics. We are a breeding ground for the ignorant and the stupid who all want to be led by a leash.


Forgive me if I am wrong, but wasn't your country in $10.6 Trillion in debt at the end of George W's reign? Even if the Obama administrated adds $5 trillion onto that just as they project, then they are still only on the exact same plan heading in the exact same direction as the previous administration, only this time its being spent on infrastructure instead of killing brown people.

It took the U.S. government 191 years – from 1791 until 1982 – to run up its first trillion dollars in debt. The second and third trillions got on the scoreboard much more quickly – each in just four years.

By the time George W. Bush was inaugurated in 2001, the National Debt stood at $5.7-trillion. He ran up more debt faster than nearly all of his predecessors combined: just under $4.9-trillion.

The National Debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Barack Obama took office. But if his budget projections are accurate, he'll run up nearly as much government debt in four years as President Bush did in eight.

I do agree that the current healthcare bill is an absolute sham. The US needs healthcare and education reform and what is being put through right now is atrocious. But I do not think that is the fault of one man, more the result of an amazingly corrupt system and a huge number of politicians and interest groups doing everything they can to make sure that these reforms fail, and once again it is the American people who suffer.

Obama will not get re-elected if some form of Helathcare bill is not past, and the rest of the Government is making a wonderful display of showing just how little power the President can wield if the rest of Washington is not behind them.

The Landslide Victory President is unable to change his own plans in a positive way once he hit the brick wall of congress and now he is floundering, being slowly chocked until he taps out. Making compromise after compromise after compromise. The radical voice of change and revolution has become an appeaser desperately struggling to do anything at all.

This is the real value and worth of the public's vote.

As for Education... your people will not revolt against you if you keep them dumb, entertained and afraid of the consequences for speaking out.

It is all bread and circus, and I agree, the Bill of Rights is looking awfully small these days.

OneEyeRed
04-20-2010, 06:57 PM
Certainly I cannot blame all on Obama. Only a fool would assume that one man has so much control. Obama inherited garbage and he also spews garbage. Furthermore, we have all the people behind the scenes that never get mentioned that truly run the country into the ground. Of course with this statement I expect the conspiracy theory accusers to attack at a moments notice :D

Void(null)
04-20-2010, 07:03 PM
Best not to mention the Trilateral Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission) then.

:undecided:

OneEyeRed
04-20-2010, 07:13 PM
Best not to mention the Trilateral Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission) then.

:undecided:

LOL funny you mention this. How many people do you think are even remotely aware of how much of this country and the world for that matter has been dictated by the Rockefeller family? But then again we are going to labeled conspiracy theorists. I rather take that title than ignorant sheep any day of the week though.

Void(null)
04-20-2010, 07:17 PM
I remember when mentioning the Trilateral Commission was immediate grounds for being a nutjob and a crazy conspiracy theorist, no one would believe they even existed.

Now they have a website. (http://www.trilateral.org/)

ZZSmufa
04-20-2010, 08:39 PM
I'm not really sure if politics and/or religion should be discussed on this forum at all. Not that there is anything wrong in healthy discussion; it just tends to go overboard really easily and leave a lot of bad blood between people. I feel that we've got a fairly polite atmosphere here, so I'm going to (hopefully) refrain myself from commenting on these issues. Though I am quite glad to live in Northern Europe. :)

However, Void, I must say I find your old fashioned correspondence very appealing. It really helps sort out your thoughts when you take the time to write them out for someone else. Even if the first part of your letter was somewhat... masturbatory and I don't quite share your pessimistic view of our species, it was an interesting insight nevertheless.

Void(null)
04-20-2010, 08:43 PM
However, Void, I must say I find your old fashioned correspondence very appealing. It really helps sort out your thoughts when you take the time to write them out for someone else. Even if the first part of your letter was somewhat... masturbatory and I don't quite share your pessimistic view of our species, it was an interesting insight nevertheless.

It sounded really good as I was writing it, but now the topic has moved over to something quite different it breaks the flow. Your right. I think I can remove that entire paragraph and be better off for it.

Done & Done. It is now shorter and a little less masturbatory.

radio_babylon
04-20-2010, 09:58 PM
i concur that the american constitution is the greatest political document yet written... and i agree that what we have in america today in no way resembles it. what to do, then? perhaps the framers have a suggestion:

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." (excerpt from the american declaration of independence, emphasis mine)

man, what a bunch of seditious right-wing extremist crazies the founding fathers were, huh?

Void(null)
04-21-2010, 01:12 AM
I wonder how many Americans have read the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution?

Malpheas
04-21-2010, 01:24 AM
"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." (excerpt from the american declaration of independence, emphasis mine)

man, what a bunch of seditious right-wing extremist crazies the founding fathers were, huh?

I laughed out loud when I read this. Awesome. Bureaucracy has reduced us to hopping through hoops. Even in Canada, it's more of the same - you should see what out conservative government has done with transparency. Don't like what you're hearing from the opposition in a minority government? Postpone all proceedings until such a time when people have forgotten about what the issue was in the first place. Or try.

Fools.

medierra
04-21-2010, 02:03 AM
LOL funny you mention this. How many people do you think are even remotely aware of how much of this country and the world for that matter has been dictated by the Rockefeller family? But then again we are going to labeled conspiracy theorists. I rather take that title than ignorant sheep any day of the week though.

Oh hey now, lets not leave out the Kennedys and various other families that comprise the American trust-fund "noble class". :p

OneEyeRed
04-21-2010, 02:06 AM
Oh hey now, lets not leave out the Kennedys and various other families that comprise the American trust-fund "noble class". :p

LOL you know I left all the rest of this crap alone because we could go on a month long diatribe and still never reach the end of the line :d

Void(null)
04-21-2010, 02:26 AM
LOL you know I left all the rest of this crap alone because we could go on a month long diatribe and still never reach the end of the line :d

Well as long as we can keep it civil then it's something to do while we wait for Grim Dawn to come out.

:D

gdansk
04-21-2010, 03:38 AM
An interesting topic... I respect the American Constitution as a proper blend of protecting the dissenting opinion from a tyranny by majority.

The Old Farmer
04-21-2010, 06:06 AM
Even in Canada, it's more of the same - you should see what out conservative government has done with transparency. Don't like what you're hearing from the opposition in a minority government? Postpone all proceedings until such a time when people have forgotten about what the issue was in the first place. Or try.

Fools.

Fools I will agree, I assume you refer to those in Ottawa? The whole lot of them act like grade schoolers at recess when no teacher is there. Though the ones in Edmonton are working hard for that title too.

I hope the US doesn't use Canada's health care for a model where unless you are lucky or a politician/cop/inmate you wait in the infinite Que, hoping for the sucker in front of you to drop dead so the line will advance.

Ah well we all have our trials - that's why I love computer games takes my mind off real life.

radio_babylon
04-21-2010, 06:07 AM
I wonder how many Americans have read the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Constitution?

not enough, thats for sure. personally, i carry a copy of each with me (amazon has a good deal on pocket editions) and keep a dozen or so in the glove box of my car to give to whomever i think might actually take and read it.

wonder how long itll be before handing out constitutions is officially made an act of sedition, and encouraging people to uphold it an act of domestic terrorism?

OneEyeRed
04-21-2010, 12:44 PM
not enough, thats for sure. personally, i carry a copy of each with me (amazon has a good deal on pocket editions) and keep a dozen or so in the glove box of my car to give to whomever i think might actually take and read it.

wonder how long itll be before handing out constitutions is officially made an act of sedition, and encouraging people to uphold it an act of domestic terrorism?

You just opened a can of worms you know :D

Void(null)
04-21-2010, 03:02 PM
wonder how long itll be before handing out constitutions is officially made an act of sedition, and encouraging people to uphold it an act of domestic terrorism?

Considering where America is right now, that is a really scary thought.

Now I have the overwhelming urge to watch 1984 with John Hurt.

Thoughtcrime!

cel
04-21-2010, 03:23 PM
Well, now that we've heard the whine, how about a glimpse on the other side of the coin; have you actually done anything about it - besides whining that is?

Void(null)
04-21-2010, 07:35 PM
Yes yes Cel, you are angsty, edgy and better than everyone else. We get it.

Moving on.

cel
04-21-2010, 08:06 PM
What, the reality cookie is too hard to chew? The way I see these whines is like looking at an unemployed person whining how he doesn't have a job while never even trying to apply for one.

As for the insults; I won't bother even coming up with a reprisal, you making an ass out of yourself is enough entertainment for today.

"Moving on."

Void(null)
04-21-2010, 08:35 PM
What, the reality cookie is too hard to chew?

Yep. That's it exactly. You got me a good one. Oh how they laughed. My fragile little being has been shattered by your hammer of righteousness.

:p

Sorry Cel, but I have a really hard time taking anything you say seriously.

You outright admit to being a troll who says things directly to get a rise out of people so that you can see "Who is worth" your time. So I just can't find it in me to get upset when you do things like this.

Actually, it comes across as rather humorous which I don't think was the intended effect, but whatever... I still have a good ol' smirk every time.

Thanks for making me smile.

cel
04-21-2010, 08:53 PM
You outright admit to being a troll who says things directly to get a rise out of people so that you can see "Who is worth" your time. So I just can't find it in me to get upset when you do things like this.
Yeah... Separating those who actually want to discuss things from those who simply want to win some some invisible battle - your posts are a good example of this - sure is trolling, but posting nothing but insults in order to rouse conflict as you have done is a-ok - I may be ambiguous on purpose, I also may not - go figure :rolleyes:

You still haven't answered the question; Besides whining how bad things are, have you done _anything_ to make a difference?

Void(null)
04-21-2010, 09:59 PM
Aside from a decade in theater trying to bring social enlightenment to the masses via the works of Brecht, Chekov and Berkoff? Joining various political groups, causes and rallies? Being a part of the Immigration Marches? Joining the global community in aiding the people of Tehran by spreading media awareness and providing proxy's during the civil unrest of the Iran Elections that still goes on today?

Nope, nothing...

Father Squid
04-22-2010, 02:39 AM
I'm not really sure if politics and/or religion should be discussed on this forum at all. Not that there is anything wrong in healthy discussion; it just tends to go overboard really easily and leave a lot of bad blood between people. I feel that we've got a fairly polite atmosphere here

Well, using the prophetic words spoken earlier today, let's all take a moment and reflect on what we are posting here before we post it.

Not that there is anything wrong in healthy discussion; it just tends to go overboard really easily and leave a lot of bad blood between people

Now, to emphasize the purpose of the forums (taken directly from the forum guidelines - which all should read at least once...)

"The rules are simple: use common sense, respect the ideas of others even if you disagree with them...This is a game forum and should not be used for potentially sensitive personal issues ...
Our goal is to create an enjoyable community for everyone where people can learn about Grim Dawn and participate in the development of the game through their suggestions and constructive feedback."

So to sum it up, keep personal comments down. Healthy discussion is one thing, personal attacks something else... If we cannot respect each other, expect closure of the thread and repercussions to follow.

sevrun
05-20-2010, 03:20 AM
Void... I find it a shame that someone who so clearly has a gift of expression started out with such issues. I truly wish I was half so eloquent regardless of where I were to put the words together. I dare say you're one of the few people I'd actually enjoy discussing the current state of affairs, since you seem well spoken and I suspect well educated regardless of the system. So many are taught what to think instead of how... but I digress. You have found a way to master your prison and escape it at will. As such, you are an inspiration to a Marine trying to get his own education in order. Thank you.

Had to edit because my thoughts scattered early on and only half thoughts were put down :p