Gaming OS

[hooby]

please include this thread : http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1031
as it`s relevant to my interests.
The most important function for me is steam cloud, don`t want to lose my savegames every time i reinstall OS

It's absolutely time that gaming reaches an OS that does not need to be re-installed on a regular basis, no matter how much you f*ck around with it. And that would be any OS out there, that is not from Microsoft...

[Rainier Wolfcastle]

It's absolutely time that gaming reaches an OS that does not need to be re-installed on a regular basis, no matter how much you f*ck around with it. And that would be any OS out there, that is not from Microsoft...

I totally agree with you. The only reason i use windows is for games. I do everything else on linux.

[cybrim]

I am thinking about buying a MAC though... I HATE what microsoft has become since Bill isn't heading it anymore... and linux has too many compatibility issues...

[jiaco]

Thread created as a place to move hijackers...carry on if you will, you realize it is pointless, sad how it is.

[hooby]

I am thinking about buying a MAC though... I HATE what microsoft has become since Bill isn't heading it anymore... and linux has too many compatibility issues...

OS X runs on a BSD kernel, so if you don't care for the "hip-effect" and overpriced designer-boxes with heating problems (air vents just look sexy) - but only for a really stable OS, you can get freeBSD instead. You'll get the same OS-kernel and basic libraries, but not the same fancy-looking windows and tools of course.

About compatibility issues, actually Windows is the only system having compatiblity issues. Linux uses all open formats that are free for anyone to use and implement. Microsoft uses mostly it's own proprietary formats, that other software may only support if they pay licensing fees to Microsoft. And they do this on purpose to make it as hard as possible to move away from Windows.

That's the main reason for 90% of all data-format incompatibilities in the PC-World.

About game compatibility: Both Mac and Linux have the problem that most games run on directX - which is Windows only - and not on OpenGL - which is open and runs on any System.
While you can get games for Mac the choice is meager, and while you can play most games Linux making them run there is a hassle.

Hardware compatibility is best with Windows, and worst with Mac (only supports a very limited amount of Hardware, and does not allow for third-party vendors). Linux is somewhere inbetween, it supporst almost all hardware out there, but none of the drivers are quite as optimizied as most Windows drivers are.

[hooby]

you realize it is pointless, sad how it is.

Isn't that the very definition of ranting?

Since this is the rant-forum I guess that means that whole part of the forum is utterly pointless and sad.

[jiaco]

I say it pointless and sad because I work and play with computers all day long. To me, all of the systems suck. Windows plays games, the rest is a mess, Mac makes nice laptops, but honestly, firefox is the only app I use on my Mac, and the linux was made for writing code, which is what I get paid to do, so, while I find it does vi justice, it doesn't do much else than command line very nicely.

But the game companies are entrenched in m$ and m$ has no idea what they want to do next, they just wait and see what other people are doing and then they throw their money and manpower towards that for a little while. Since they got their console and they now have a phone os, they are moving on to the cloud. None of these techs help their gaming fan base and so it is unlikely that we will get any love from m$ anytime soon. If mac would embrace games, then m$ might jump back on that bandwagon again. That would be great for me. But, according to what people write about Jobs, not likely.

Anyway, Rants are not all pointless, but getting a fully functional OS in my lifetime seems to be (just my opinion of course). I feel that this particular rant is a great topic for discussion, especially now that it has its own thread.

Just don't expect miracles, games need to make money, m$ supports an environment where money can be made with software. Seems like they are stuck with each other for now.

[Opal Monkey]

It's absolutely time that gaming reaches an OS that does not need to be re-installed on a regular basis, no matter how much you f*ck around with it. And that would be any OS out there, that is not from Microsoft...
I fail to see why people are reinstalling Windows all the time. I've been running WinXP on this computer for the last three and a half years, and it's just getting to the point where I'm thinking about reinstalling in the last few months.

Just to clarify, I have messed around with Windows. I've edited the registry, done automation and programming, messed with Windows core files, have UniServer running at all times, etc. There are at least a dozen games installed at any given time many of which are running random mods, and I install almost every interesting piece of software I come across just to test it out!

Windows has given issues, but most haven't been a problem to fix. Besides, if you have the know-how to mess with things that will really bugger up Windows, and the time to play much for games, fixing most of the issues likely shouldn't be that big of a problem. At least that's been my experience. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a good option other that Windows, but since I play games, I don't.

Gee, I got a little off track there! Point being, I don't see why some people reinstall Windows every 6 months? I've always ran it for at least a year at a time and never had a major problem because of it.

I'm not going to comment on OS X or Linux since I've never really tried either. I was raised on Windows (and a little DOS early on). Always wanted to try Linux but have never done it.

[gdansk]

I like a general purpose OS. I, for one, play a lot of games in windowed mode while doing other work. A gaming OS would reduce my computer to simply a console, which by the way seem to becoming more general (Xbox 360 and PS3 can do a lot more than their predecessors and so on).

[hooby]

Point being, I don't see why some people reinstall Windows every 6 months? I've always ran it for at least a year at a time and never had a major problem because of it.

I'm not going to comment on OS X or Linux since I've never really tried either. I was raised on Windows (and a little DOS early on). Always wanted to try Linux but have never done it.

I have experience with:
Windows since 3.11 (and with DOS too)
Mac OS since System 7.1
Linux since 1999 (RedHat + Suse first, now Ubuntu).
FreeBSD since 2006 (on servers only).

In my experience Windows is the only System that:
.) gets slower after months of use
.) needs to be reinstalled at all
.) has big problems with security holes and viruses
.) makes it advisable to install onto a seperate system partition
.) has to be rebooted regularily (cant run for months without reboot)
.) can be caused to crash when an application crashes
.) starts behaving strangely when theres no more free space on the system drive
.) has problems sharing files over the network with other versions of the same OS.
.) makes you restart after each installation/update
.) costs that much money
... etc.

That being said, Win7 seems to be a huge improvement. I'm using it for only 3 months now, so it's still to early to really know it, but it's so far it's holding up pretty good. Maybe Windows does finally catch up now.

[Void(null)]

Fuck Macs... cut down, watered down, diluted shit for toffs with lots of money and zero fucking understanding of computers, substituting having to learn anything about their system with the ability to pay through the fucking nose for a shiny box of lights because it "looks cool" even if its functionally useless.

The Gaming world needs to better support Linux and OpenGL.

[jiaco]

In British English slang, a toff is a mildly derogatory term for someone with an aristocratic background, particularly someone who exudes an air of superiority. For instance, The Toff, a character from the series of adventure novels by John Creasey is an upper-class crime sleuth, who uses a common caricature of a toff - a line drawing with a top hat, monocle, bow-tie and cigarette with a holder - as his calling card.

The word toff is thought to come from the word tuft, which was a gold tassel worn by titled undergraduates at Oxford University or Cambridge University.[1]


The Anglo Saxon word 'toforan' has a meaning of 'superiority'. It is possible the derivation of 'toff' is earlier than is generally supposed.

(just in case anyone else thought it was a typo from the mac-induced rage that fills the void with such loathing :confused:)

[Void(null)]

Thank you sir for adding in context. When I get ragey I go all English and so does my vocabulary.